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Collins - Printable Version +- Carlton Supporters Club (http://new.carltonsc.com) +-- Forum: Princes Park (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-4.html) +--- Forum: Robert Heatley Stand (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-14.html) +--- Thread: Collins (/thread-2652.html) |
Re: Collins - thrunthrublu - 04-16-2016 (04-16-2016, 06:25 AM)MosquitoFleet link Wrote:With Board matters, there is not enough information on the records but word of mouth, elliot wasnt pushed out by collo, the members did. If you remember the losses around that time were so horrific, people were baying for elliots blood and got it collo, the perennial bridesmaid, now becomes president. Elliot in my view, was an antiquated administrator that refused to yield to the clubs position and act accordingly Collins failure was , he didnt negotiate a better position for sanctions against some paper bags on the evidence of some hack from fremantle and forced admissions by another at the AFL. These sanctions were from the AFL, worse than 34 players who systematically doped. Those sanctions, fkd the club for a decade. The office of the president of the carlton football club was and is as prestigious then as it is now. Wanted by all and not necessarily for the right reasons. So bad was the management of all in the last 15 years, they squandered the millions tipped in by the likes of pratt over the years. Pratt was a busy man. Too busy to worry about the massive ego's of smorgon collins and elliot to stand. He only stood when he was asked to do so by elliot and kernahan on a cap in hand visit to raheen with the keys of the club on the table. Re: Collins - thrunthrublu - 04-16-2016 if you're looking for an answer as to the real savior of the CFC , the 11th hour man who stood up and saved the club when it was on life support, when no one else saw life left in the club, It was Richard J Pratt and continued to be the Pratt family at the bequest of Richard long after. There should be a 30ft high statue in honor of that man facing royal parade so no one ever forgets him or what he did for the CFC Re: Collins - PassIt2Carrots - 04-16-2016 (04-16-2016, 07:24 AM)thrunthrublu link Wrote:if you're looking for an answer as to the real savior of the CFC , the 11th hour man who stood up and saved the club when it was on life support, when no one else saw life left in the club, It was Richard J Pratt and continued to be the Pratt family at the bequest of Richard long after. He saved us no doubt but he too made some horrendous errors. Re: Collins - kruddler - 04-16-2016 Mozzie, i'm not sure why i bother trying to explain this to you, this is more for others who may actually believe what you say. (04-16-2016, 06:25 AM)MosquitoFleet link Wrote:With Board matters, there is not enough information on the records but word of mouth,Why didn't anyone take on Elliot? You blame Pratt because he put his hand up after Collo dug is deeper in the hole that we couldn't get out of? Quote:In 1981 Collo was appointed Secretary-Manager of the Carlton Football Club, a position he filled with distinction for twelve years. In this time the Blues won three more flags. In 1993 he became the AFL Director of Football Operations....On wikipedia (yes, i know) there is a whole stack of salary cap breaches listed. I find these 2 the most interesting in light of what you quoted above. Quote:- Three clubs were fined for minor breaches in 1993: Melbourne ($13,450), Carlton ($9,750) and Footscray ($2,700).[7]So yes, he was in charge. In doing so he would've set up things for a few years in advance (contracts run for more than 1 year) and are setup before the season starts - ie, while Collo was in charge. He setup dodgy payments. Went to his new role at the AFL and pointed the finger straight back at us and got us fined. Not only that, because of these prior breaches, when our 2001/2 salary cap breaches came out we got a bigger fine because we were 'serial offenders'. So sure all hail collo, who has bent us over multiple times. Re: Collins - PassIt2Carrots - 04-16-2016 Fork me Collins is a dog of a bloke. He should have his name scrubbed off the locker. Re: Collins - MosquitoFleet - 04-16-2016 (04-16-2016, 07:06 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:You do understand how the corporate world works don't you? Given that you support the price fixer pratt, I assume you do? Re: Collins - MosquitoFleet - 04-16-2016 (04-16-2016, 07:45 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Mozzie, i'm not sure why i bother trying to explain this to you, this is more for others who may actually believe what you say. Collo didn't point the finger. He as president confessed to the salary cap breach by elliott Re: Collins - kruddler - 04-16-2016 (04-16-2016, 08:01 AM)MosquitoFleet link Wrote:Collo didn't point the finger. He as president confessed to the salary cap breach by elliott You are talking about the 2001/2 breaches. The one we got the 1mil fine, lost picks 1+2 etc. I'm talking about before that. When he first left to the AFL. Don't tell me you didn't know we got in trouble for something he setup and dobbed on us for. Re: Collins - MosquitoFleet - 04-16-2016 (04-16-2016, 08:03 AM)kruddler link Wrote:You are talking about the 2001/2 breaches. The one we got the 1mil fine, lost picks 1+2 etc. Elliot was president in 1993...not collins Re: Collins - Lods - 04-16-2016 What you say Kruds regarding 1994 may actually be the case.. do you have a link to show that's what happened (Collins dobbed) or is it an educated guess? What do you do in that position? It's a bit of a dilemma You go to a new job. You know that there is information that you have that could affect your old club. Do you keep it concealed....If it comes to light down the track and you've kept it hidden you're out the door....sacked. or Do you go in and say "I know of a problem we have.....How do we fix it?" |