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Re: Team Selection Policy In 2016 - cookie2 - 01-27-2016

(01-26-2016, 12:56 AM)DJC link Wrote:Very true, and I think that Phillips and Gorringe were recruited because they can go forward, take marks and kick goals.  Kreuzer could do that too, earlier in his career, and probably can still if given the opportunity and good delivery. 

It's probably a combination of talls with ability and ball movement and structures that enable them to capitalise on that ability.  It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

Good delivery is essential but I think he will be more useful on the ball with only the occasional foray forward. I guess we'll have to wait and see how BB wants to use him - I think it could be interesting.


Re: Team Selection Policy In 2016 - LP - 01-27-2016

(01-27-2016, 02:05 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Good delivery is essential but I think he will be more useful on the ball with only the occasional foray forward. I guess we'll have to wait and see how BB wants to use him - I think it could be interesting.

Most long range delivery into the forward line is just average, good forwards deal with that. Better teams move the ball quickly and hit 30m to 40m targets rather than kicking 50m bombs. 30m ~ 40m passes suit fast moving agile forwards, not ruckmen resting inside F50. Also in the 20m ~ 30m range the forward only needs a step to break away from the defender, at 50m they need to get clear by 2 or 3 steps as bare minimum.

Carlton's delivery into the forward line has been downright poor and it needs a fix. But this concept of needing "Good Delivery" can be a bit of an excuse for blokes who don't know how to play forward or are not suited to the role.

Fev used to rave about Hoops delivery into the forward line, buts Hoops was only responsible for a very small percentage of Fev's goals and as we know Fev kicked plenty. Primarily Fev just wanted the ball delivered in the general direction of some space" in front of him" and as quickly as possible, he did the rest.

If you go back and watch our forward delivery over the last 4 ~ 5 years you'll see us kicking over the head of the leading forward to Betts or Garlett running into the goal-square which in my opinion is not a finals winning strategy and easily circumvented when required! Our "Plan B" seemed to be to kick the ball 50m onto the head of a ruckmen and let Betts fly for the mark against them instead of staying on the deck for the crumbs. I am not sure how much of that was planned and how much was mates looking after mates, I suspect a bit of both which is why I think our delivery was shizen!


Re: Team Selection Policy In 2016 - cookie2 - 01-27-2016

@LP

LP, I think good delivery is simply the sort that suits the capabilities of your forwards and that they can score from on a consistent and reliable basis. No point providing any other kind of delivery that doesn't do that?


Re: Team Selection Policy In 2016 - LP - 01-27-2016

(01-27-2016, 05:45 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:@LP

LP, I think good delivery is simply the sort that suits the capabilities of your forwards and that they can score from on a consistent and reliable basis. No point providing any other kind of delivery that doesn't do that?

I heard a King analysis last year that said we are statistically one of the best performing clubs at entering F50, but our percentage of scores from entries is very poor and the ratio of opposition scoring from our failed F50 entries was one of the highest if not the highest in the AFL.


Re: Team Selection Policy In 2016 - PassIt2Carrots - 01-27-2016

(01-27-2016, 08:04 AM)LP link Wrote:I heard a King analysis last year that said we are statistically one of the best performing clubs at entering F50, but our percentage of scores from entries is very poor and the ratio of opposition scoring from our failed F50 entries was one of the highest if not the highest in the AFL.

That's what happens when you bomb the ball along the boundary.