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Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-15-2015
(08-15-2015, 01:13 PM)Lods link Wrote:It's probably an optimist/ pessimist difference in our thinking.
I'm a bit pessimistic at the moment
Menzel can't even make this side...the other players you mention may have a bit to offer but in most cases they are either triers with limitations in their games ......or unrealised potential.
It's a guess with these blokes so you can't lock them in.
Cripps is the only one I feel confident in saying "This guy is going to have a long career."
Menzel was good in the NB's last week and is a quality player compared to many on the list....selections this week were not based on winning the game IMO and both he and Yarran were
conveniently left out for reasons more than form or discipline...
Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain - Lods - 08-15-2015
Is that the reason he was dropped in the first place though
Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain - Dominator_7 - 08-15-2015
I think having a base of 8 is a good starting point.
Its a 66 game rebuild yeah ?
First of 3 drafts / trading periods to build the list coming up.
We ll further add to that base with something like 3 1st round picks (Pick 1 or 2 + compo for Hendo + trade for Yazz)
Carlisle and Aish (one via trade, 1 via PSD)
Jack SOS and Bailey Rice
Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-15-2015
(08-15-2015, 01:27 PM)Lods link Wrote:Is that the reason he was dropped in the first place though
No doubt Menzel was given a wake up call by being dropped after lack of effort/poor form in recent weeks but like a good player he repsonded and was easily in our best players for
the NB;s last week and should have been a monty to get picked if we were serious about winning....picking Dick and Ellard over Menzel tells me we were never serious about winning this game....
I'd be expecting Jones and Tutt back for next week just to make sure of the result...
Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain - MilkIt - 08-15-2015
(08-15-2015, 01:23 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Menzel was good in the NB's last week and is a quality player compared to many on the list....selections this week were not based on winning the game IMO and both he and Yarran were
conveniently left out for reasons more than form or discipline...
I think if Menzel and Yarran had've played last week and were dropped this week it might've looked a little suspicious.
Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain - Mantis - 08-15-2015
Oh my lord. Dick, Jones and Tutt in the same line up. Hell no. Unless Jones plays as a defender, I never want him in any side again. Tanking of the highest order.
Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-15-2015
(08-15-2015, 01:34 PM)Mantis link Wrote:Oh my lord. Dick, Jones and Tutt in the same line up. Hell no. Unless Jones plays as a defender, I never want him in any side again. Tanking of the highest order.
Reckon Jamo or Rowe might have a rest this week(Jones in down back) and Henderson in the weeks after that...need Hendo nice and fit for his medical when Geelong check him out..
Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain - Lods - 08-15-2015
(08-15-2015, 01:32 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:No doubt Menzel was given a wake up call by being dropped after lack of effort/poor form in recent weeks but like a good player he repsonded and was easily in our best players for
the NB;s last week and should have been a monty to get picked if we were serious about winning....picking Dick and Ellard over Menzel tells me we were never serious about winning this game....
I'd be expecting Jones and Tutt back for next week just to make sure of the result...
I just don't see the logic though....
Had Menzel played it would have made little difference to the result.
Yarran could have played at his best and it would have made little difference to the result.
Even if we are tanking we don't need to have them playing VFL.
Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-15-2015
(08-15-2015, 01:39 PM)Lods link Wrote:I just don't see the logic though....
Had Menzel played it would have made little difference to the result.
Yarran could have played at his best and it would have made little difference to the result.
Even if we are tanking we don't need to have them playing VFL.
You never know.. as Brisbane showed early tonight they are not that good and we had to apply the handbrake IMO to let them take over.....
Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain - Dominator_7 - 08-15-2015
Rowe has seriously gone downhill this year.
Close to being delisted at seasons end based on form