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Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood - kruddler - 04-27-2015

(04-27-2015, 07:37 AM)DontgoJuddy link Wrote:Is there any danger we could say "bugger the tags" and just take the game on? Head to head, mano a mano.

I was going to suggest seeing if we could get Gibbs and Pendles to go head to head.


Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-27-2015

(04-27-2015, 08:04 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I was going to suggest seeing if we could get Gibbs and Pendles to go head to head.

Be crazy to let Pendlebury run around on his own IMO....far more damaging player than Gibbs when he has the footy...


Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood - kruddler - 04-27-2015

(04-27-2015, 08:12 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Be crazy to let Pendlebury run around on his own IMO....far more damaging player than Gibbs when he has the footy...

Head to head doesn't mean they shake hands before the game and don't see eachother again until the final siren.

Gibbs can be accountable.


Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood - laj - 04-27-2015

(04-26-2015, 11:25 PM)DontgoJuddy link Wrote:How do you know this?

Kicked 3 in atrocious conditions on Saturday.


Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood - kruddler - 04-27-2015

(04-27-2015, 08:24 AM)laj link Wrote:Kicked 3 in atrocious conditions on Saturday.

So all the coaches want from him is to kick 3 goals?

I'm tipping he is given more instructions than that. What are they and how do we know he is doing them? That is what the question was asking.


Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood - Woodstock - 04-27-2015

(04-27-2015, 04:38 AM)chookaradley link Wrote:Watson has done nothing to impress in the 2's. He doesn't deserve a recall.

And here is the main issue. No offense mate. This is totally the wrong way around. It's like trying to get into the Australian Cricket Squad and you're not from NSW...

You cannot set standards if the seniors are not going to be measured and replaced on the back of their OWN performances.

What would you rather have:

1. You keep players in the seconds and they  ONLY get a chance due to injuries, horrendous ongoing performances by a non leader player, where finals are a no chance, or its their first-ever senior game.

2. You make the SENIORS accountable by setting benchmarking standards with the coach and leadership group. If they are not met, you're dropped. Dead simple. As a result he spends time in the seconds..probably hell bent to get back in, and a seconds player is brought in hell bent to play a blinder and staying in the seniors. Standard set. Rinse and repeat.


Keeping option 1 going is one of the reasons we have no depth and our kids have no real experience. We bring em in expecting miracles and when the season is over and we never learn. In the meantime big teams blood youngsters as part of a strategy.


Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood - DontgoJuddy - 04-27-2015

(04-27-2015, 08:24 AM)laj link Wrote:Kicked 3 in atrocious conditions on Saturday.
So he was told by the coaching staff  "kick 3 in atrocious conditions and you're in"?


Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood - laj - 04-27-2015

(04-27-2015, 08:36 AM)kruddler link Wrote:So all the coaches want from him is to kick 3 goals?

I'm tipping he is given more instructions than that. What are they and how do we know he is doing them? That is what the question was asking.

WTF?


Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood - DJC - 04-27-2015

(04-27-2015, 09:31 AM)Woodstock link Wrote:2. You make the SENIORS accountable by setting benchmarking standards with the coach and leadership group. If they are not met, you're dropped. Dead simple. As a result he spends time in the seconds..probably hell bent to get back in, and a seconds player is brought in hell bent to play a blinder and staying in the seniors. Standard set. Rinse and repeat.

There's not much point dropping players if their replacements can't play.  Similarly, there's not much point promoting players who haven't done enough in the NBs.  In fact, to do so would be to encourage mediocrity.

IF we had sufficient depth and IF we had blokes playing out of their skins in the NBs, your option 2 would work well. 




Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood - Woodstock - 04-27-2015

(04-27-2015, 09:49 AM)DJC link Wrote:There's not much point dropping players if their replacements can't play.  Similarly, there's not much point promoting players who haven't done enough in the NBs.  In fact, to do so would be to encourage mediocrity.

IF we had sufficient depth and IF we had blokes playing out of their skins in the NBs, your option 2 would work well.

But that very stance breeds an acceptance of "it'll do"..Brice Gibbs says hello. You'll never get depth if the draft picks done get games and aren't window shopped.