(11-12-2021, 12:11 PM)DJC link Wrote:Well, none of the COVID vaccines are dead useless after 6 months but the flu vaccine is. 

The facts don't support your position Flyboy and conspiracy theories don't cut the mustard.  Unless you can come up with empirical evidence it's probably best just to fade away.

(11-12-2021, 05:47 PM)LP link Wrote:Drugs shown to have some efficacy In Silico or In Vitro do not always work In Situ, in fact most do not!

Example Ivermectin is a demonstrated 3CL Protease inhibitor In Silico, and at ridiculously high dose In Vitro it kills a virus like Sars-CoV-2, but at safe dose In Situ it did nothing, it was worse than chance. And they have tested it in millions of people now either through the actions of nefarious despots or very large trials.

Now that doesn't mean they won't find a way to combine and deliver Ivermectin in some way to specifically target Sars-CoV-2, but for now that mechanism doesn't exist. But we should hope they do find a way because it might be cheaper solution!

Proving 3CL Protease inhibition does not prove efficacy, it is just a broad label. Like pieces of metal shaped into keys that superficially look the same they can be cut subtly differently and as such one key does not work opening every lock. If being labelled a 3CL Protease Inhibitor was all you need there are dozens of drugs that should work, but no one drug works on every virus, it is not as simple as applying the broad label suggests.

Quote:Well, none of the COVID vaccines are dead useless after 6 months but the flu vaccine is.

(11-12-2021, 10:14 PM)flyboy77 date Wrote:The high dose claim is just another lie.

Ivermectin has been used widely and very successfully to treat CV19. Why deny it?

c19ivermectin.com

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/

Quote:It was a mix of vitamins and other pills that President Jair Bolsonaro touted as early treatments for COVID-19, well before vaccines became widely available to prevent and minimize coronavirus infections.

Among the “kit” drugs were the malaria pill hydroxychloroquine and the antiparasitic tablet ivermectin.

Brazilian authorities even at one point launched an app, called TrateCov, (“TreatCov[id]” in English) which recommended the same seven “kit” drugs to all its users. (The evidence base for that protocol leaned heavily on data from Dr. Flávio Cadegiani, who’s now a member of the FLCCC, a US-based ivermectin propaganda machine.)

But Brazilians quickly discovered – through heart-wrenching personal experience – the limits of treating COVID-19 with ivermectin. Brazil suffered some of its worst death rates yet in late 2020 and early 2021, even in heavily ivermectin-dosed areas, as the more transmissible P1 variant spread quickly across the country.