(10-27-2021, 05:47 AM)LP link Wrote:Agreed, the next big issue might not be COVID directly but the indirect overload of hospitals and health care staff as we open up. I suspect like yourself the worst is potentially ahead of us, a lot hangs in the balance subject to the new treatments because immunity it seems won't be everlasting.

As I've said several times, we can open up but we must still respect the safe basics, and I fear it will descend into a free for all.

Japan is also a nice model to monitor, it has basically preceded what has happened in NSW and Vic and now enters winter, they are not confident at all and have a large chunk of the population vaccinated. A population that is far far more compliant than here! :o

Bejing has locked down millions even though they are nearly all vaccinated with Sinovax, note we are about to approve Sinovax locally.

These are significant tells!

(10-27-2021, 12:52 PM)DJC date Wrote:The TGA has recognised Sinovax and Covishield (India's version of AstraZeneca) but will not approve them.  That means that neither vaccine will be used in Australia but folk fully vaccinated with either will be permitted to enter Australia.

(10-28-2021, 10:42 PM)Mav link Wrote:Victoria’s 91.3% first dose rate is first rate. I’d imagine the committed anti-vaxxers will make it hard to improve much on that figure.

But that figure needs to be reduced to reflect the vaccination rate in the whole community as it includes only those 16 years and over. Assuming around 20% are younger than that, then the first dose vaccination rate goes down to about 73% of the community. But that figure would have to be increased to reflect vaccinations in the 12-15 year age group unless those vaccinations are included already in the 91.3% figure.

(10-28-2021, 10:42 PM)Mav link Wrote:Victoria’s 91.3% first dose rate is first rate. I’d imagine the committed anti-vaxxers will make it hard to improve much on that figure.

But that figure needs to be reduced to reflect the vaccination rate in the whole community as it includes only those 16 years and over. Assuming around 20% are younger than that, then the first dose vaccination rate goes down to about 73% of the community. But that figure would have to be increased to reflect vaccinations in the 12-15 year age group unless those vaccinations are included already in the 91.3% figure.