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Re: General Discussions - Mav - 03-28-2022 Yet that isn't the plan for hydrogen generation from coal. Coal is burnt and the emissions are to be "captured". If you're an advocate for catalytic conversion of brown coal without CO2 emissions, then you should be a fervent critic of the current plan for hydrogen generation through burning coal. Re: General Discussions - Thryleon - 03-28-2022 (03-28-2022, 03:17 AM)capcom link Wrote:When the rouble has plunged over 50% since the invasion, no wonder he's losing friends. I imagine a lot of Russian interests are in Cryptocurrency. Before you think that the Ruble falling is a problem, have a think about what happens when you hold a commodity that doesnt sink with the price of it. Re: General Discussions - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-28-2022 Russian stock market has dropped around 30%, it's mainly foreigners who own most of the stocks and they are not allowed to sell at this stage.Inflation is tipped to run at about 20%. Putin has about 700 billion tied up overseas he can't access it. The Russian central bank won't recognize Crypto and even though Russians own 214 billion in Crypto according to Forbes converting it into rubles would be difficult with sanctions. Unless China provide the means to launder money or have a change of heart on their attitudes to Crypto I don't see Russia having the means to prevent an economic downturn in all areas. Re: General Discussions - DJC - 03-28-2022 (03-28-2022, 10:27 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Russian stock market has dropped around 30%, it's mainly foreigners who own most of the stocks and they are not allowed to sell at this stage.Inflation is tipped to run at about 20%. Putin has about 700 billion tied up overseas he can't access it. Yep, Putin really underestimated the West's response to his dirty little war and the impact that it would have on Russia's economy and the fortunes of the oligarchs. Re: General Discussions - LP - 03-28-2022 (03-28-2022, 07:04 AM)Mav date Wrote:Yet that isn't the plan for hydrogen generation from coal. Coal is burnt and the emissions are to be "captured". If you're an advocate for catalytic conversion of brown coal without CO2 emissions, then you should be a fervent critic of the current plan for hydrogen generation through burning coal.None of the current plans are forever plans, it's very deceptive to discuss them in a permanent solution context, because nearly all the current plans are transitional. Carbon sequestration is also a transitional plan, nobody with any credibility makes the claim it's forever, including amongst it's critics. btw., I don't see the same criticisms of solar PV and wind power, it is quite hypocritical, because both use rare earth elements in abundance which are diminishing in availability and come from extremely destructive mining practices, and both are built of dirty manufacturing industries. The "clean solar PV" that is held up as the gold standard only exists in the lab at the moment, it's not related to the panels you currently put on a roof! Unfortunately, this whole debate is mired in the politics of money, and all sides are equally guilty of slander and deception. The renewable sector is not as green as it paints itself to be, and the fossil fuel sector is not as committed to active reform as it should be, both tell lies to get more of the available subsidies. And finally, if you are worried about cleaning and greening the planet, do not investigate the battery industry! :o Re: General Discussions - Mav - 03-28-2022 But 1 thing we can agree on is that the renewable sector is much more likely to reduce emissions than the fossil fuel sector. I should say everyone save for the Morrison Govt as it's continually trying to find ways to take money earmarked for renewables and give it to the fossil fuel sector: Government plan to let renewable agency fund fossil fuels blocked after Liberal-led committee’s motion, The Guardian. Re: General Discussions - Baggers - 03-28-2022 (03-28-2022, 01:11 PM)DJC link Wrote:Yep, Putin really underestimated the West's response to his dirty little war and the impact that it would have on Russia's economy and the fortunes of the oligarchs. Absolutely. So far he's succeeded in elevating Zelenskyy's status globally, turned global (negative) attention on himself and his buddies with considerable impact on their personal financial fortunes, created unnecessary hardship on his citizenry, created a conflict where it's not Russia vs Ukraine but rather more personality based - Putin & Oligarchs vs the Ukraine - this would gall him, underestimated an opponent (a cardinal sin in military strategy)...and so on. Those who understand the psychology of Putin/Russians understand that it is somewhat different to the 'West'. As extraordinary as it may seem, he has better than 75% support from his (ill-informed) population. At this stage there are only two options for Putin... claim a win with what he has 'achieved' thus far and back off or (like any self-respecting Dictator) escalate things to chemical/nuclear exchanges. Anyone who thinks Putin wouldn't opt for nuclear strikes as it would be a suicide also, doesn't understand his thinking or personality(?) type. Martyrdom would not be beyond him, even with the cost to his and other nations being horrendous (which wouldn't bother him for a nano second, he simply cannot be seen to lose). Re: General Discussions - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-28-2022 (03-28-2022, 10:03 PM)Baggers link Wrote:Absolutely.Yep Ukraine will be his Stalingrad and like I said previously you have to offer him a way out that saves face for him so he isn't backed into a corner and becomes desperate enough to push the button on his nukes. He does want to make his mark on history and be seen as a winner like Stalin etc and that makes him dangerous to the world. Bit of crap land in the Donbass and Ukraine declaring itself neutral might end it and save many lives. Re: General Discussions - LP - 03-28-2022 (03-28-2022, 01:11 PM)DJC date Wrote:Yep, Putin really underestimated the West's response to his dirty little war and the impact that it would have on Russia's economy and the fortunes of the oligarchs.I think the EU have always wanted to wean themselves of fossil fuel dependencies, but they haven't had the political willpower to do so given the pain it causes the general public. But Putin gave them the excuse to push harder into sustainable technologies and sources, with the immediate pain justified under the measures needed to curtail a global tyrant. I'm sure there are some within the EU that are hoping for China to cross the line as well so that copious amount of deleterious trade can be curtailed as well. So much of this is again more dependant on politics rather than the better technical solutions. This is the irony of humanity, no solution no matter how suited to the problem can possibly succeed without the acceptance of people. Re: General Discussions - capcom - 03-28-2022 The Ukranian rebuild alone will take many years and cost billions; with or without Russia's help. Assuming of course some form of "peace" agreement is agreed to. I don't see that happening for a long time. |