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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 10-26-2021

With respect, so what?  And trust me, I can't stand andrews




Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 10-27-2021

(10-26-2021, 11:19 PM)LP link Wrote:So what will NSW or Qld do if things turn ordinary after summer, I think I'd rather have prior warning like the Vic bill than just having new rules sprung on me unannounced like might happen in NSW or Qld.
It has a more immediate effect in Victoria. Once it's passed into law, the Govt can reissue the vaccine mandate and the Human Rights Charter won't be available to challenge it. The current Supreme Court challenge will fail, just as Clive Palmer's suit against the WA Govt failed after legislation was passed that prevented such an action.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-27-2021

The tennis players are happy to use Australia as a political pawn, but watch them all fall into line by the time the US Open comes around, they have a will so weak you can bend it with a dollar bill!

Reminds me of Macron, all puff and bluster with Australia, but already within days or even hours, back cap in hand visiting the US and UK!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 10-27-2021

(10-26-2021, 10:50 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Scomo has confirmed that the unvaccinated can come into the country providing they quarantine.

Now Andrews has to be the one to block Novak and co from playing.

And he's done just that.  It seems that State Governments have to apply for an exemption to enable unvaccinated people to enter the country and Andrews has advised that Victoria won't be seeking an exemption.

Winning the tournament may be within reach of more players this time.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 10-27-2021

It'll be interesting to see if Dan's critics do a big 180 and switch from slamming Dan for applying a double standard to unvaccinated tennis players by allowing them to play to slamming him for not recognising that the Aus Open needs an exemption. That's the thing about total opposition: it doesn't matter what the Govt does, you just take the opposite position on everything it does. 


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-27-2021

(10-27-2021, 02:23 AM)Mav date Wrote:It'll be interesting to see if Dan's critics do a big 180 and switch from slamming Dan for applying a double standard to unvaccinated tennis players by allowing them to play to slamming him for not recognising that the Aus Open needs an exemption. 
I'll be more surprised if they don't flip, I expect it!

Can we run a lottery on who goes off first, Credlin, Bolt, Panahi or maybe a outsider like Jones?


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 10-27-2021

(10-27-2021, 02:32 AM)LP link Wrote:I'll be more surprised if they don't flip, I expect it!

Can we run a lottery on who goes off first, Credlin, Bolt, Panahi or maybe a outsider like Jones?

Have any of them commented on the Australian open yet?


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-27-2021

(10-27-2021, 02:44 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:Have any of them commented on the Australian open yet?
Only Sky is commenting today specifically about the Aust Open, Panahi and Bolt have a long running series of commentary about major events, vaccine passports and exemptions surrounding major events. But they frame that commentary in the context of local freedoms rather than visitor or player impact.

It's political, they will all make commentary even if it is framed ambiguously.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 10-27-2021

(10-26-2021, 11:19 PM)LP link Wrote:I've been chatting with associates in the Northern Hemispehere overnight, they are not confident at all as winter approaches up there. They think our current COVID decline is a false dawn similar to that experienced in the UK and Israel, buying the politicians, health officials and bureaucrats time to ready themselves for the next wave.

Specifically we spoke about the right wing attack on scientists and health officials, they said it was the same there earlier this year when falling numbers started a wave of enquiries labelling the predictions of epidemiology experts alarmist and extreme, then as things got colder cases started rising again! As a result a lot of foreign governments are putting the same rules in lace that are proposed here, which is a portent to much harder lockdowns next time around if it happens!

So what will NSW or Qld do if things turn ordinary after summer, I think I'd rather have prior warning like the Vic bill than just having new rules sprung on me unannounced like might happen in NSW or Qld.

Most alarming, is that Israel released the shackles, at the beginning of their summer, with almost 0 positives per day.

Its taken some time for things to get to a pretty awkward spot for them, but awkward nonetheless.

The worst of this is STILL very much ahead of us, and I keep telling people (despite whether or not they want to listen) that how we treat people during this very testing time, is almost as important as the pandemic response.

If society decends to levels where the common person "couldnt give a stuff" about others, then we are in all sorts of trouble COVID or 0 COVID. 


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-27-2021

(10-27-2021, 04:51 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:Most alarming, is that Israel released the shackles, at the beginning of their summer, with almost 0 positives per day.

Its taken some time for things to get to a pretty awkward spot for them, but awkward nonetheless.

The worst of this is STILL very much ahead of us, and I keep telling people (despite whether or not they want to listen) that how we treat people during this very testing time, is almost as important as the pandemic response.

If society decends to levels where the common person "couldnt give a stuff" about others, then we are in all sorts of trouble COVID or 0 COVID.
Agreed, the next big issue might not be COVID directly but the indirect overload of hospitals and health care staff as we open up. I suspect like yourself the worst is potentially ahead of us, a lot hangs in the balance subject to the new treatments because immunity it seems won't be everlasting.

As I've said several times, we can open up but we must still respect the safe basics, and I fear it will descend into a free for all.

Japan is also a nice model to monitor, it has basically preceded what has happened in NSW and Vic and now enters winter, they are not confident at all and have a large chunk of the population vaccinated. A population that is far far more compliant than here! :o

Bejing has locked down millions even though they are nearly all vaccinated with Sinovax, note we are about to approve Sinovax locally.

These are significant tells!