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Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 07-29-2016 Interesting point from some pundits. Hillary directly attacked Trump's authoritarian declaration that "only I can fix it". She stressed that the founding fathers made sure that no one person could hold all the power in the US - that they got rid of one ruler in King George and didn't need another. She emphasised that there were so many people who had to work together to improve the US, from frontline troops to police to teachers to nurses and doctors, to entrepreneurs who build businesses; that all Americans had to work together. The pundits point out that Trump's attitude to presidential power is the opposite of that of conservative GOP figures. One pointed out that Paul Ryan, the GOP House leader, would say that neither the President nor the Federal Government should be the saviour, that the States should be left to fashion their own legislative solutions and churches and families should be left to decide moral issues. Libertarians would also shrink from an authoritarian who promises to wield presidential power to refashion society. They want to hear promises about small government rather than an all-powerful President. No doubt he appeals to those who pine for an authoritarian leader. But is that enough? Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Lods - 07-29-2016 (07-29-2016, 02:30 AM)DJC link Wrote:What about Trump encouraging a foreign "enemy" power to hack Clinton's/Democrats' emails? He's Donald Trump...He's got away with it. ![]() It will hardly impact. Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 07-29-2016 Not so sure about that. I'd imagine that hatred and suspicion of Russia is hardwired into American minds. Any suggestion that Trump would play footsie with Putin would be electoral poison, especially as he is hoping to carry the conservative vote. Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Lods - 07-29-2016 (07-29-2016, 04:39 AM)Mav link Wrote:Not so sure about that. I'd imagine that hatred and suspicion of Russia is hardwired into American minds. Any suggestion that Trump would play footsie with Putin would be electoral poison, especially as he is hoping to carry the conservative vote. He's a Teflon man. None of his comments stick to him. If it's a news item a week from now we may consider it to have had an impact but I suspect it will have been overtaken by other issues. Democrats want the e-mail story to go away. By attacking Trump on his comments it keeps them in play. Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-29-2016 (07-29-2016, 04:50 AM)Lods link Wrote:He's a Teflon man. The way I see it Trump doesnt have swinging voters...doesnt matter what he says or does from here on in the same people will vote for him regardless..its Clinton's vote that will either rise or fall depending on what she says or does....I reckon too every time there is a terrorist attack or racial disturbance in the USA that Trumps vote goes up... Hilary would be better saying as little as possible and riding out her advantage in the polls to voting day... Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 07-29-2016 Let's not forget that there are other issues that may well emerge. One is the Zika virus. Not only has the link to microcephaly been made but also the harm it causes isn't limited to that condition. It has now been established that it can be passed by sex with an infected person whether male or female and doctors have advised that the infectious period has been raised to 2 months. The US has had a fair number of cases but up til recently they were all cases contracted while the infected person was travelling overseas or from sexual contact with such a traveller. Florida has now notified 4 cases in which the infection appears to have been spread by mosquito bites in Florida. That is a major development. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/florida-confirms-first-locally-transmitted-zika_us_579b6319e4b08a8e8b5daa25?section= Even worse, the experts believe that the virus is no longer confined to a tropical species of mosquito which has limited penetration into the US. It now looks as though the virus has jumped to the most common species of mosquito in California and others: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/healthy-choices/article92034182.html. This is a virus which seems to keep upping its game. This plays into the Dems' wheelhouse. Obama tried to obtain $1.9b to fund efforts to deal with the possibility of an epidemic but the Republicans firstly would only consider authorising $1.1b in funding and even then they tried to attach riders to it so that it would divert funding from Obamacare and Planned Parenthood while overturning a ban o the flying of the Confederate flags in military cemeteries . It went nowhere. http://time.com/4406114/zika-funding-bill-fails-as-congress-is-unable-to-reach-compromise/ Raising issues of national healthcare, Planned Parenthood's role in giving family planning advice to pregnant women who might consider abortions of affected foetuses and issues of science generally, this would give Clinton a major advantage. And the inaction of the Republican Congress would hurt it in the congressional elections too. Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 07-31-2016 Act One of 'Zika Hits the USA' has begun, CNN, 29/7/16. Quote:Zika is here, in the USA. Fasten your seat belts because we're in for a bumpy ride. Who could have seen this coming? ![]() The experts say that a quarter of Puerto Ricans will have been infected by the end of the year. Puerto Rico is a territory of the US and even votes in presidential primaries. The position of Governor Scott is interesting. He is the National Chairman of the Trump Super PAC. Though he demands federal help, he turned down a request made by the CDC to send in teams to help with contact tracing and testing. If I were the Governor, I'd accept any help offered, particularly when the CDC has experts who've been working on the Zika Virus for months. From a public health standpoint, the CDC should be involved as mosquitos and viruses don't respect State boundaries. I hope Governor Scott didn't refuse CDC assistance for political reasons and it has to be said that Florida has previously performed well in combatting other mosquito-borne diseases. It'll be interesting to hear what the anti-science guy, Trump, will say about the Zika Virus. What conspiracy theory will he unleash? What will be his sage advice to devastated pregnant women? Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - flyboy77 - 07-31-2016 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/01/29/zika-freakout-the-hoax-and-the-covert-op-continue/ One should remain highly suspicious about this latest 'pandemic' imo. Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Lods - 07-31-2016 (07-31-2016, 10:16 PM)Mav link Wrote:Act One of 'Zika Hits the USA' has begun, CNN, 29/7/16. What the Republicans may have done in the past with regard to funding wont be relevant in the Presidential race. What they've done with any issue wont be relevant.....because Trump has managed to create a division between himself and the party that enables him to dissociate himself from decisions of the past. Where this may impact will be in the House and Senate elections The winner of the Presidential race will be the one who suffers least damage in the war of attrition to come. Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 08-01-2016 Lods, what you say makes a lot of sense but Flyboy's post just before yours shows how Trump may well make a mess of this issue. Remember that the CNN article foreshadowed conspiracy theories erupting over the Zika virus? As if on cue, Flyboy posted a conspiracy theory from a charter member of the tin-foil-hat brigade. The author has left a very small digital footprint for someone with the impressive biography he provides for himself. Was he really nominated for a Pullitzer Prize (i.e. was he one of the 3 entrants selected by the jury or was he simply entered by a friend on payment of the $50 entry fee)? Anyway, how about this statement taken from the linked article: Quote:This is my second article on the Zika-virus scam (article archive here). I’ve been to these rodeos before: HIV, West Nile, Swine Flu, SARS, Ebola. In each case, a virus is blamed for illness and death that actually arises from other causes.Hands up those who think that those viruses were improperly blamed for those diseases? THIS BLOG looked into him and revealed he's a "germ theory denialist", an anti-vaxxer on steroids as most anti-vaxxers don't deny that viruses cause diseases but instead claim treatments and vaccinations cause more harm than good. He believes that this conspiracy by the medical cartel is a cover for depopulation. Lods, you're right that this won't hurt Trump if he plays his cards right. But he has never met a conspiracy theory that he didn't like. He went big with the 'birther' conspiracy theory, saying that Obama had to prove he wan't born in a Muslim country and that he wasn't a secret Muslim who was intent on destroying America. Lately, he has jumped aboard the 'Ted Cruz's father conspired with Lee Harvey Oswald to kill JFK' bandwagon. If the Zika virus does spread, it will be an obvious and proper issue to bring up in the Presidential Debates. If he is asked whether the Zika virus is a health issue and what will he do about it, how will he respond? I'm sure everyone will hold their breath as he prepares his answer. Will he side with the anti-vaxxers or will he say that it's an issue and he'll kill all the mosquitos, that he's the biggest enemy of mosquitos everywhere? If he accepts that the Zika virus causes birth defects, what will he say when asked whether infected expectant mothers should be able to abort? The only way he'll be able to duck the issue is to avoid interviews and debates. And that's very possible. After all, the evil media can't be trusted. Ban them all! PS: We also have to remember that Florida is a State that is up for grabs and which might swing the election, as it did in 2000 for George Dubya. As Florida is ground zero when it comes to the Zika virus, mocking concerns over it might not be the smartest move. I'm sure that Trump's campaign team is hoping that Governor Scott can contain the virus and it dies as an issue. |