(10-07-2021, 03:35 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:^^  follow moderna's share price and that will give you a better answer.

Quote:ANTI-VAXX PROTESTER: Do you see all of these homeless people around. Are they dead in the street with COVID? Hell no. Why?

HOMELESS PERSON (walking by): Because I’m vaccinated you dumb fu#k.

(10-07-2021, 05:34 AM)LP link Wrote:A lot of the share price stuff is driven by very short term players, the long game is very different, it's hard to detangle.

I think AZ was quite clever, by sub-licensing manufacturing to many governments they basically had a bunch of AZ compatible facilities built around the globe at someone else's expense, but the product those facilities make is licensed. Now if AZ invent some new drug or treatment for whatever disease or treatment, those locations are already invested in AZ technology will be unlikely to look at alternatives, they'll just license the next AZ product by default. They already have the kit, they already have the skilled staff, they already have most of the know how, they just need the license and they are up and away!

I think it is smarter than the Moderna / Pfizer closed shop approach, to scale up manufacture those two have to build new facilities at their own risk. So what do they do when something like GSK or Merck put that investment at risk, how do they fight back?

By contrast AZ doesn't have to, they didn't foot the bill, the only risk is a short term royalty for a massive long term benefit!

The detractors are really only looking at the short term, and not the long game. The Pfizer/Moderna approach looks more profitable in the short term as long as the existing established product is not undercut. So they have to undermine all the alternatives and keep investing in their own capacity.

Might be a short selling opportunity in there somewhere?

(10-07-2021, 06:17 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:Dont believe the noise you hear on social media. 

(10-07-2021, 05:45 AM)Mav link Wrote:Love it! An anti-vaxxer was walking down Hollywood Boulevard using a bullhorn to spread her nonsense about Covid being a hoax. But she learned a valuable lesson: don't ask a question to which you don't know the answer, even if (or especially when) the question is a rhetorical one:

Man Demolishes Vaccine Opponent's Argument About Homeless People In Just 6 Words, Huffpost.

(10-07-2021, 10:21 AM)Mav link Wrote:I wonder if an average student was offered tuition that would guarantee 90% in an exam, would s/he say, “No thanks, that isn’t 100% so it’s no good”.

In a binary world, I guess that would be the way. If you don’t get 100%, you must have got 0%. There’s nothing in between.

I can see now why you think Ivermectin can compete with vaccines. Ivermectin's 0% success rate is the same as the 90% effectiveness of the vaccines as neither is 100%. It makes sense, I guess.

(10-07-2021, 10:40 AM)shawny date Wrote:possible health risks/side effects that won’t be known for 5 plus years if you take that

(10-07-2021, 09:44 AM)flyboy77 date Wrote:So, if vaccines (these current cv19 ones) are so effective, why the hate and heat on the unvaxxed to get jabbed?