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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-04-2021

As this stage we shouldn't assume the side-effects of Sotrovimab or Merck's new Molnupiravir will be trivial, even though they both may well be life saving!

Not sure anti-vaxers would be convinced to take a new medicine over any vaccination old or new, which always does my head in when discussions of Ivermectin surface given Ivermectin's arm long list of potential serious side-effects. They have zero logic, logic is not part of their discussions!

Some of you may have stumbled across the stories relating to the strong arm protestors being diagnosed positive, and in particular how they dramatically changed tune once confronted by the reality of COVID ICU. I'm not sure what to think, they deserve privacy but I can't help but think they deserve to be exposed as well!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 10-04-2021

Only 1763 new cases ... who you gonna blame now andrews?  Cretin.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 10-04-2021

I don’t know about him, but I blame the cretins who’ve worked tirelessly to spread a lethal virus. That’s one thing the scriptwriters of Contagion got wrong. They had the populace resorting to violence to secure the vaccine and protect themselves. Where were the anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers and anti-lockdowners trying to throw a spanner in the works? I guess that truth is stranger than fiction and the scriptwriters thought inserting such characters into the film would make it ridiculous.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 10-05-2021

Looks like MBB has an answer to his question about whether the protests after the construction shutdown were at least as much of a superspreader event as the infamous engagement party: COVID cases linked to violent CFMEU protests surge to seven, union says, 7news.com.au.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-05-2021

(10-05-2021, 05:59 AM)Mav date Wrote:Looks like MBB has an answer to his question about whether the protests after the construction shutdown were at least as much of a superspreader event as the infamous engagement party: COVID cases linked to violent CFMEU protests surge to seven, union says, 7news.com.au.
The let it rip unrestrained Sars-CoV-2 R[sub]0[/sub] for Delta variant is now calculated at about 8.5, in the next week or so it could get very grim for some of them if they were also anti-vaxers!

Of course that assumes they also ignored social distancing and mask wearing away from the protests, but I wouldn't be surprised to find some contradictory behaviours around family and friends.

Another emerging vector are again the illegal gym patrons, they are at it again having already been responsible for one spreader event last year!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 10-05-2021

(10-05-2021, 05:59 AM)Mav link Wrote:Looks like MBB has an answer to his question about whether the protests after the construction shutdown were at least as much of a superspreader event as the infamous engagement party: COVID cases linked to violent CFMEU protests surge to seven, union says, 7news.com.au.

Define superspreader. The family I know who were infected was from a factory where an infected worker infected 19 people who brought it back to their houses.

Yeah but blame the protesters, Gladys, Trump whatever else suits your agenda.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-05-2021

(10-05-2021, 06:17 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:Define superspreader. The family I know who were infected was from a factory where an infected worker infected 19 people who brought it back to their houses.
[member=26]madbluboy[/member]‍ we have to assume protestors won't have themselves tested like the general public, so seven is a lot!

That is probably seven seriously ill, not seven mildly ill or asymptomatic! Wink

So then you extrapolate in the other direction to usual, if serious illness remains at about 15% of cases that means there is about another 46 infected circulating!

At R[sub]0[/sub] = 8.5 they can become more than 3300 in just two cycles of infection!
46 x 8.5 x 8.5 = ~3323 the approximate formula is xR[sub]0[/sub][sup]n[/sup] where [sup]n[/sup] is the number of cycles and x is the starting case count.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 10-05-2021

Yep. Compare it to the infamous engagement party. In all likelihood, the attendees weren’t anti-vaxxers or anti-lockdowners, they just would have thought there was bugger all chance of being infected given we were close to Covid-0 at the time and they trusted that the other attendees were responsible people who wouldn’t be infected. IIRC, many were wearing masks. I’m guessing when they learned one of their number had been Covid positive, they would have been lining up to be tested.

On the other side of the fence, when anti-vaxxers get sick enough to seek medical assistance they often dispute the diagnosis of Covid on the basis it doesn’t exist or they were fully protected by Ivermectin or Vitamin C. That mob won’t get tested until they or their associates are forced into hospital.

PS: Memory fail! I had another look at the video and couldn’t see any masks! Interesting that 2 infected people were among the gathering. Maybe they wouldn’t have been lining up for testing, but I’m guessing the tracers were able to identify them all through the video and the sheepish hosts.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 10-05-2021

High-profile Mongols bikie member, Dylan Goddard aka "The Destroyer",  spent time in a Covid intensive care unit after attending the protest/riot.  I believe he said, "COVID is real" upon his discharge from hospital.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 10-05-2021

Almost 1800 people got covid yesterday, over 99% of them had nothing to do with protests.

More chance of getting the disease from your local Coles or Woolies than walking around the city holding a sign.