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Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - PaulP - 07-27-2016
(07-27-2016, 03:53 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Ask Bernie Sanders how level it was.)
I take your point, but the fact that not every man makes it to the top is not really the issue.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Thryleon - 07-27-2016
(07-27-2016, 03:36 AM)Mav link Wrote:I don't peddle the 'Poor Woman' trope. She's plenty tough, as was Gillard. But there's a clear difference in how ambition and career-building is viewed where women are concerned. The Age ran a story yesterday that women don't get promotions because they don't ask for them. But asking for them makes them ball-breaking bitches. A bit of a catch-22 ...
What a load of crap. Work is a boys club but not in the men vs female case like the feminist movement would have you believe. Most men work a glass ceiling too, and seldom get places based on merit.
It's symptomatic of the world we live in.
Meanwhile the same men in the same circumstances resent women getting recognition for simply performing the same job as everyone else because they aren't a man.
In my work the only ones getting kudos are the ones who manage upwards not the ones who are necessarily most proficient.
Seems to be a similar story in other jobs I've had.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 07-28-2016
Another weird episode in the Trump reality show!
He thought it would be a good idea to say at a press conference and by way of Twitter that he hoped that Russia could hack into servers and find the 30,000 deleted emails. It has caused outrage and given the Democrats a good line of attack.
Look, I reckon I'd just write it off as a lame attempt to mock suggestions that there is complicity between Putin and Trump while getting in another dig at the email saga. But why would you go there? It was reckless at the very least. If you spot a landmine, you don't pick it up and play frisbee with it. Trump and Putin have been busy complimenting each other and Trump's campaign manager has also managed a pro-Russian Ukranian leader. There is also speculation that Trump's point blank refusal to release his tax returns may well be motivated by the desire to hide commercial interests in Russia. Trump has foreshadowed picking a and choosing which members of NATO he'd stand behind and recognising Russia's annexation of Crimea. Why would you fuel the fire? If this is how he runs a campaign, imagine how he'd run the country ...
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - madbluboy - 07-28-2016
How did the emails get leaked again?
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Lods - 07-28-2016
(07-28-2016, 01:03 AM)Mav link Wrote:Another weird episode in the Trump reality show!
He thought it would be a good idea to say at a press conference and by way of Twitter that he hoped that Russia could hack into servers and find the 30,000 deleted emails. It has caused outrage and given the Democrats a good line of attack.
Look, I reckon I'd just write it off as a lame attempt to mock suggestions that there is complicity between Putin and Trump while getting in another dig at the email saga. But why would you go there? It was reckless at the very least. If you spot a landmine, you don't pick it up and play frisbee with it. Trump and Putin have been busy complimenting each other and Trump's campaign manager has also managed a pro-Russian Ukranian leader. There is also speculation that Trump's point blank refusal to release his tax returns may well be motivated by the desire to hide commercial interests in Russia. Trump has foreshadowed picking a and choosing which members of NATO he'd stand behind and recognising Russia's annexation of Crimea. Why would you fuel the fire? If this is how he runs a campaign, imagine how he'd run the country ...
There was nothing of strategic importance on the e-mails...at best the Russian's will have Hillary's shopping list.
...or was there?
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - laj - 07-28-2016
Hilary has something huge going or her.....Trump.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 07-28-2016
Trump does have to hope that the hackers have dumped the deleted Hillary emails on Wikileaks and the latter releases them at a critical point in the campaign.
If this happens, it would provide irrefutable proof that her server was hacked. It would be better for him still if those emails were embarrassing in themselves. But if they exist, why wouldn't the hackers/Wikileaks drop the bombshell during the convention? Chances are if they don't come out prior to Hillary closing the convention, they don't exist. In turn, this would suggest the Russians didn't hack her server. After all, those emails are now ancient history and revealing that they were hacked would not compromise any such hacking operation.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Lods - 07-28-2016
How come none of our blokes can deliver a speech like Obama can
Come to think of it none of our women can give a speech like Obama (Michelle) can....but Melania Trump, well that's a different story ;D
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - DJC - 07-28-2016
(07-28-2016, 07:15 AM)Lods link Wrote:How come none of our blokes can deliver a speech like Obama can
It's partly because their minders/speechwriters won't let them say anything but the latest slogans and buzzwords that have survived the focus group process.
In my experience, Septics are generally more articulate and confident with public speaking than Aussies. They tell me that it's a product of their school system where public speaking is routine from a very early age.
Obama does have very good delivery and his message is positive - unless you're a Republican and believe he is a Muslim terrorist committed to bringing the US down.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Lods - 07-28-2016
(07-28-2016, 06:15 AM)Mav link Wrote:Trump does have to hope that the hackers have dumped the deleted Hillary emails on Wikileaks and the latter releases them at a critical point in the campaign.
If this happens, it would provide irrefutable proof that her server was hacked. It would be better for him still if those emails were embarrassing in themselves. But if they exist, why wouldn't the hackers/Wikileaks drop the bombshell during the convention? Chances are if they don't come out prior to Hillary closing the convention, they don't exist. In turn, this would suggest the Russians didn't hack her server. After all, those emails are now ancient history and revealing that they were hacked would not compromise any such hacking operation.
Assange has a problem with the Obama admin and by extension Hillary.
They're after him.
They want to lock him up until 2116
I'm sceptical that there is anything really damaging to Clinton but just for arguments sake....
What would be the best way to play it if he does have more material to dump...which he suggests he does have.
The material relating to Sanders would best be used at the convention where his supporters could disrupt.
That "wave" has largely been ridden and negotiated.
Anything specifically damaging to Hillary would best be used a week or two out from the election when there wouldn't be time to counter and recover.