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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 09-28-2021

They can be used sparingly. When someone tests positive, they can be administered to their close contacts to break the chains of transmission. And if we end up having cheap and accurate home testing, treating the infected person early becomes more viable.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 09-28-2021

(09-28-2021, 03:22 AM)Mav date Wrote:They can be used sparingly. When someone tests positive, they can be administered to their close contacts to break the chains of transmission. And if we end up having cheap and accurate home testing, treating the infected person early becomes more viable.
Do you think this also a tell as to why Merck never bought into the vaccine development, maybe this drug has been near completion for some time, and very good long acting vaccines would make it obsolete?


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 09-28-2021

I would have thought the best strategy was for pharmaceutical companies to cover the field in aggregate rather than every company having a finger in every pie. Same thing with AIDS, but in reverse order. The retrovirals were created first and the search for a vaccine goes on.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 09-29-2021

There was an epidemiologist weeks ago who warned that the worst was yet to come for NSW, with deaths peaking in Oct, Gladys Burythemall even whispered Darth Vader style much the same a couple of weeks back.

Today Sept 29th in NSW there are 15 deaths, what is going to be the peak? :o

Murdoch's media must be raptured, they can badger the politicians to shorten the dose intervals then get a 2nd crack at ratings complaining about all the later deaths and what little has been done about them!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - shawny - 09-29-2021

So do fully vaccinated citizens fall into the same basket as unvaccinated when we hit the target percentages and the state opens up regarding quarantining rules?

I would have thought the vaccine being as successful as we are told is means the rules wont apply to the fully vaccinated but the word im getting is quarantine will be the same rules for everyone. 

Opening up is undoubtedly going to increase the cases and inturn exposure sites so the odds of being exposed are highly likely therefore the risk of having to quarantine will be a hell of lot higher then it is now. Likely that everyone will be exposed in the first few months and if even double vaccinated are going to be sent to quarantine for a full 14 days seems like this is something many haven't considered.

Hard to book a holiday and plan much which the threat of quarantine which can drop like a hammer at any moment. And this time around there is no more government grants and kickbacks softening the blow so watch for the anger once people realise we are still all in the same basket which was not how getting vaccinated and having our freedom back was sold to us. 

Please someone tell me i have this wrong?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-29-2021

(09-29-2021, 02:03 AM)LP link Wrote:There was an epidemiologist weeks ago who warned that the worst was yet to come for NSW, with deaths peaking in Oct, Gladys Burythemall even whispered Darth Vader style much the same a couple of weeks back.

Today Sept 29th in NSW there are 15 deaths, what is going to be the peak? :o

Murdoch's media must be raptured, they can badger the politicians to shorten the dose intervals then get a 2nd crack at ratings complaining about all the later deaths and what little has been done about them!
Check out the latest Doherty modelling and those low and high seed tables...if those figures come to fruition the heath system will have collapsed....Lockdowns will continue in a medium format IMO even with 70-80 vaccination rates of over 16's.
https://www.doherty.edu.au/uploads/content_doc/DOHERTY_MODELLING_INTERIM_REPORT_TO_NATIONAL_CABINET_17TH_SEPTEMBER_2021.pdf


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - shawny - 09-29-2021

(09-29-2021, 11:03 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Check out the latest Doherty modelling and those low and high seed tables...if those figures come to fruition the heath system will have collapsed....Lockdowns will continue in a medium format IMO even with 70-80 vaccination rates of over 16's.
https://www.doherty.edu.au/uploads/content_doc/DOHERTY_MODELLING_INTERIM_REPORT_TO_NATIONAL_CABINET_17TH_SEPTEMBER_2021.pdf

Was near the northern hospital today and counted 12 ambos in a row lined up waiting to drop patients off. Never seen that before and reckon the system is already bursting at the seems.

Those 4000 plus icu beds would have come in handy wouldn’t they. Instead if numbers predicated eventuate as you rightly point out we will pull further ahead in the longest lockdown place on earth regardless of vaccination numbers. The narrative like many aspects of this pandemic that we just need to get vaccinated to return to a normal life is another lie.

Disgusting to think these so called leaders had over 18 months to prepare the health system and as usual they do sfa but talk and then point the fingers elsewhere and find scapegoats at every opportunity when questioned. And while I’m venting the stupidity of federal government to announce that funding will cease once vaccination targets are met makes little sense unless for some reason they want the vaccination numbers to slow up.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-29-2021

(09-29-2021, 11:46 AM)shawny link Wrote:Was near the northern hospital today and counted 12 ambos in a row lined up waiting to drop patients off. Never seen that before and reckon the system is already bursting at the seems.


Those 4000 plus icu beds would have come in handy wouldn’t they. Instead if numbers predicated eventuate as you rightly point out we will pull further ahead in the longest lockdown place on earth regardless of vaccination numbers. The narrative like many aspects of this pandemic that we just need to get vaccinated to return to a normal life is another lie.

Disgusting to think these so called leaders had over 18 months to prepare the health system and as usual they do sfa but talk and then point the fingers elsewhere and find scapegoats at every opportunity when questioned. And while I’m venting the stupidity of federal government to announce that funding will cease once vaccination targets are met makes little sense unless for some reason they want the vaccination numbers to slow up.
Yep 4000 beds means more new hospitals unless you are turning other facilities into hospitals and of course you need staff.
Was never going to happen, its all been shambolic and normal life is a long way off and you are so right about preparation.
The time to build and implement was after the 1st wave, China built several new hospitals and real quick because they knew CoVid would be back and our leaders did nothing of significance like that.
Of course its just a few ambos in their own area whinging and everything is fine....?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-29/victoria-ambulance-hospital-health-system-covid-strain/100499266





Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-29-2021

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/us-panel-backs-covid-19-boosters-only-for-elderly-high-risk-20210918-p58ss4.html

In a surprising turn, the panel rejected, by a vote of 16-2, boosters for almost everyone. Members cited a lack of safety data on extra doses and also raised doubts about the value of mass boosters, rather than ones targeted to specific groups.
Heard Joe Biden had his booster today...not sure if he knew what he was being jabbed for....bet he didnt know he was a lab rat for that safety data either.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 09-29-2021

Four CFMEU staff have tested positive to COVID after last week's riots and many others are in quarantine.  It looks like ignoring social distancing and not wearing masks in the open air is a good way to spread the Delta variant.  I wonder how many other rioters and their close contacts have symptoms and are not getting tested.