(09-26-2021, 07:51 AM)northernblue link Wrote:I don't owe you (or anyone else) an answer to that so don't waste your time

(09-26-2021, 04:44 AM)Mav link Wrote:Interesting article:  Half of unvaccinated workers say they’d rather quit than get a shot – but real-world data suggest few are following through, The Conversation.

Given vaccinations & everything Covid is much more politicised in the US than here, the statistical analysis is pretty relevant. It would seem that even the anti-vaxxers in the Deep South give in after talking tough.

The vaccine mandates announced in Victoria are already being credited with boosting the vaccination rate.

(09-26-2021, 08:19 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:190 staff have left the ED at a large inner Melb hospital in the last 18 months, wards are full and vaxed patients with side effects are
clogging up ED's and taking up resources. If numbers ever reach the modelling figures of 2000 cases the hospital system will collapse in Melbourne.
Real world data isnt so real, you need to speak to the staff at the hospitals to get the real picture...

(09-26-2021, 08:35 AM)kruddler link Wrote:My mother in law was a career long nurse who went into early retirement.
Her husband worked in the hospital system as well transporting patients around in the covid wards, he went into an even earlier retirement.

These are not isolated cases. Overworked and in high risk environments.

(09-26-2021, 08:19 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:190 staff have left the ED at a large inner Melb hospital in the last 18 months, wards are full and vaxed patients with side effects are
clogging up ED's and taking up resources. If numbers ever reach the modelling figures of 2000 cases the hospital system will collapse in Melbourne.
Real world data isnt so real, you need to speak to the staff at the hospitals to get the real picture...

(09-26-2021, 08:58 AM)Mav link Wrote:I'd probably prefer real world data. The problem with anecdotal evidence is that it usually comes from a small sample..................................

(09-26-2021, 08:19 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:190 staff have left the ED at a large inner Melb hospital in the last 18 months, wards are full and vaxed patients with side effects are
clogging up ED's and taking up resources. If numbers ever reach the modelling figures of 2000 cases the hospital system will collapse in Melbourne.
Real world data isnt so real, you need to speak to the staff at the hospitals to get the real picture...

(09-26-2021, 03:41 AM)Micky0 link Wrote:Shawny, real question - where do you get your news from? Is it Herald Sun? Just curious, because you and Capcom and Madboyblue all have this real visceral hatred of Dan and seem to find this whole epidemic and lockdowns, to be his personal fault.

The protests over the past week are being hashtagged #murdochriots because the language and actually one of the banners took its comment straight off the Herald Sun.

I know many people don’t believe Andrews is doing a good job, but I want to know what is it you’d prefer him to do? If the HS was reporting this as they do NSW, I wonder if you’d feel differently?

It’s a genuine curiosity I have.

He spoke about the 4,000 icu beds in today’s presser. Basically that it takes time to train up and recruit that many nurses to be skilled enough to run 4,000 beds. but that also we wouldnt want to have 1,000 ICU beds full let alone 4,000.

I’m not saying he hasn’t lied, every politician lies.

But I see him as genuinely hard working and trying his best, with 100% blowback but most media in this State plus our inept Fed Gov.

So you disagree that the 800 dead from
Last year were from FEDERALLY RUN aged care? STATE RUN aged care came through with I think 20 deaths, not sure on that.

How can it be Dan’s fault? How come he doesn’t get a gold star from you for the state run aged care coming thru unscathed, yet you point the finger at him For the deaths in fed run? Honestly that makes no sense to me.

Do you know other countries are going in and out of lockdown all the time? Singapore has gone back into one recently. There is no quick fix unfortunately.

Do you have equal hatred of Jeroem, Foley and Sutton? Or do you believe the diCTAtor dAN theory in that he is the one making every decision regardless of what others say? And he is doing so to keep everyone miserable?

I think Australia and other island nations are in such a unique position, we all could’ve squashed Covid snd been free communities. How come you’re not pointing the finger at the feds to say why was a quarantine station not built in March 2020
In the middle of this massive country, to take in overseas travelers? Why was it left to the states to repurpose hotels in the middle of the city? That just makes no sense. Yet someone scumo is not getting grilled over this very basic thing he could’ve arranged early on, and we’d all be free to live our lives. No Covid spread.

Please also stop with the Dan stuffed quarantine by not having the AFD. that is a Sky News rhetoric and Peta had all the evidence to bring down the Andrews government one year ago - yet, here we all sit.

I think you’re a good person that is suffering or your children are, it is frustrating, it feels never ending. But we will get there ☮️

(09-26-2021, 09:07 AM)capcom link Wrote:Frightening [member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member] ... so glad I'm well out of that chaos.