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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - shawny - 09-20-2021

(09-20-2021, 07:39 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Very Violent protests in Melbourne with building workers getting the rubber bullet treatment, be interested in what Krudd and Shawny think of proceedings. Police have been over the top and Andrews should have responded to the workers questions a bit earlier instead of making them wait and get frustrated which has led to violence.

Personally I've never been a fan of the unions even though in some areas I guess they are a necessary evil - generally have little to no regard for their employer and pretty much take what they can get and will walk off site at the drop of a hat. I've seen them shut down a site because the builder didn't have a roof covering the lunch sheds to the toilets and said they are in the process of erecting one and it would be up within a week -well that wasn't acceptable and they demanded it be done that day so the builder was forced to shut the site kick every contractor off until they were satisfied and allowed it to reopen.

Its this sort of crap that sees most real hard workers trades dislike them as they get the a bad name for whole industry which is very unfair as most tradies work bloody hard and like my boys have long lasting strong relationships with their employers.  If you are mid size contractor in the building game there is little incentive IMO to grow your business as you are more likely to have to look at projects for the Tier 1 builders and all those sites have strong union presence and that's when the fun starts if your not geared up for it.

Unfortunately its the minority that cause this reaction that is likely to affect the whole industry where the majority are innocent hard honest workers and companies who don't want to get involved in protests full stop. Look in my circle most workers and employers would have preferred to have been offered the choice to take the vaccine but just prefer to accept it and move on as if it good enough for health workers to have to take it its good enough for construction (however i have heard that no decision has been made if parliament will be a vaccine requirement workplace....... surely)  The union still have strong ties and big pull over the Tier 1 projects which employ a huge amount of workers and companies directly and indirectly and if they don't accept this restriction they can make life very hard for many innocent parties which is wrong but unfortunately its the way it still is. If the unions kick in their heels things can get very ugly. 

Wonder if the unions think they can bully Dan into backflipping here -  I mean he did talk up and not deliver the additional 4000 ICU beds he promised early last year so it wouldn't be the first time.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Micky0 - 09-20-2021

(09-20-2021, 08:57 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:But all lockdown are based on health advice, never tit for tat.
Do you just quote crap from
The Herald sun? You sound so juvenile with your little barbs and diCTAtor dAN commentary ?

They said get a jab to be on site by 23 sept, after the disgusting display today they’ve shut it all
Down because the companies and union wouldn’t come To an agreement on the hours worked without it amenities/sheds (they never call them tearooms!) and the anti vax crowd jumped onto that.

Selfish bastards that don’t want a little pinchy ouchie jab, many of which they got thru childhood and many of which their parents got to get them born in the first place!  Look at the photos, half the crowd is in trackies and runners. No tradie turns up to building sites in that - bunch of brought in thugs thinking kicking a dog and hurling crates was the way to achieve the outcome they wanted.

Why anyone would be supporting these scumbags is unbelievable.

Every other industry has had to bend with this pandemic except these guys, now they can’t even take two needles - mind you some of them don’t seem to mind injecting other things…. Interesting

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 09-20-2021

(09-20-2021, 08:58 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Health advice is based on 'super spreader' events, which is caused by construction industry strikes/protests.

Surely you are smart enough to put 2 and 2 together.

So construction has been safe for the last 18 months until today? Nonsense.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 09-20-2021

(09-20-2021, 10:04 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:So construction has been safe for the last 18 months until today? Nonsense.
It only takes one incident, whether that happens on Day 1 or Day 450 makes no difference!

I thought there were a couple of very specific events recently that have caused the recent problems, it may be that the building union protests are mostly coming from staunch anti-vaxers within the union or within build sites. It's really the unions problem to sort that out, I think they will do it quite quickly, the majority are not going to suffer for a vocal minority.

The anti-vaxers shout loud, it gives them the false impression they are numerous and dominant, but far far from it, the smart-ar5e ones know they are minority so they hide down the back egging the others on.

As for the shutdown I don't see that the health authority had any choice, too much widespread non-compliance forced it's hand, which has led to companies being fined or threatened with fines for COVID non-compliance, and the subsequent reaction by companies was to remove or restrict access to certain facilities.

I'm not sure there is anything murky about any of the official actions, although politics will muddy the waters as it is certainly clouding the reasons for the protests.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 09-20-2021

Will this ban apply to all building activity including smaller home building projects? Does anyone on here know?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Micky0 - 09-20-2021

(09-20-2021, 10:04 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:So construction has been safe for the last 18 months until today? Nonsense.
1. Delta has been said time and again it is a more virulent strain that seen before
2. Tradies on in particular a big site in box hill were breaching strict Covid protocols put in place. Apparently a bikie gang ran that site and everyone was too gutless to pull them onto line then it was too late when they spread it everywhere
3. Partner told me of no masks in lifts, sitting next to each other in sheds even tho chairs are roped off
4. You have a thug group within a bigger group who initially protested lack of amenities on site then anti vaxerss jumped on board
5. Suggest you check out Josh Jones, he said it well yday - you need a stack of tickets,cards, safety courses, safety gear, to step on site. These are MANDATORY!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Micky0 - 09-20-2021

(09-20-2021, 11:04 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Will this ban apply to all building activity including smaller home building projects? Does anyone on here know?
Apparently all

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-20-2021

(09-20-2021, 11:31 PM)Micky0 link Wrote:Apparently all
Got some new builds going on in our area and they are all halted.
Neighbors having a garage rebuild which is continuing this morning.
Our dog let them know not to park their vans too close, woke us up and a few others :-*

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - shawny - 09-20-2021

This government seems to have one tool in the tool box regardless of the task. Its called the lockdown tool. 

Does he ever think of a solution that focus on the rule breakers alone without crippling the whole industry or am i asking too much from this guy.

Triple the fines for businesses found to be breaking the rules. Triple the fines for individuals blatantly breaking the rules and praise those who follow the rules and show support for them by allowing them to continue.  Pilling everyone in the one basket starts to make the honest rule followers doubt things as they are not being shown any support for doing the right thing.

Considering the past with lockdowns hard to be convinced a 2 week lockdown achieves anything other then again show if you don't obey Dan he will simply lock us all you down. He loves the power he has and cant come up with any other tactic to control the actions of a few idiots.

What's the solution when reopening occurs and the same mindless protests occurs  - does he return to this tool box and grabs the lockdown tool again?  Madness in a state that has suffered enough.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Professer E - 09-20-2021

F the CFMEU and it's kin.  From alI those who have lost work while these classless meat heads stay in work yet biatch about minutiae around "conditions".  To all those who had paid with additional lock down time because these Muppets can't stay in their area,  wear a mask,  stay metre apart, wash their freaking hands or get vaccination.  Sorry fellas,  you've flushed all you social licence down the toilet.