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Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 07-29-2024
(07-29-2024, 02:57 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Kemp is the fall guy and gets big jobs on opposition star players usually bigger than himself but when he fails he gets dropped.
He is a 3rd tall intercept defender not a KP defender and not a lockdown type.
All these these defensive issues centre around not having a true CHB with good size who can mind the taller physical types.
100%
Kemp is not now, nor ever has been, a genuine KPD.
Nor is Marchbank.
Nor is McGovern.
Young is supposed to be, but lost his magic powers a few years ago for some reason.
Durdin is also supposed to be, but is made from wet newspaper.
So, when some of us, both of us included, have been screaming about the need for a genuine CHB for years and we get continually told that there is 'nothing available' then i call BS and put the blame fairly and squarly on the club.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Professer E - 07-29-2024
No EB, Matt Carroll from the Sandringham Dragons who has OP.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Lods - 07-29-2024
(07-29-2024, 02:57 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Kemp is the fall guy and gets big jobs on opposition star players usually bigger than himself but when he fails he gets dropped.
He is a 3rd tall intercept defender not a KP defender and not a lockdown type.
All these these defensive issues centre around not having a true CHB with good size who can mind the taller physical types.
Tend to agree.
Weitering takes the gorillas...but is the gorilla always the opposition's best key forward, or the one Weitering matches up best on.
If we're playing Geelong and Hawkins plays, Weitering will take Hawkins...who gets Cameron.
Which leaves a bit of a gap to our second string 'key' defenders (and I use the term loosely) taking on some pretty big jobs.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Shakin77 - 07-29-2024
(07-28-2024, 05:42 AM)laj link Wrote:Hence would mind Binns coming in.
There has to be something about his defensive work that the MC don't rate.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 07-29-2024
(07-29-2024, 06:30 AM)Professer E link Wrote:No EB, Matt Carroll from the Sandringham Dragons who has OP.
He is 190cm.
He is shorter than all our other '3rd talls' who are being shoehorned into CHB.
Unless he's had a huge growth spurt, he isn't the answer.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-29-2024
(07-29-2024, 06:30 AM)Professer E link Wrote:No EB, Matt Carroll from the Sandringham Dragons who has OP.He is a rebound half back flanker Prof @190cm, couldnt see him holding down a key defensive post anytime soon and he reminds me of a slightly taller Nic Newman and thats who I would see him replacing in the future.
Apart from Lemmey I dont see any other player on our list with the genuine attributes to play a KP role down back other than the tried and now failed Lewis Young and we need to hit the trade period/draft and moneyball another candidate.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Baggers - 07-29-2024
(07-28-2024, 09:02 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Always gotta blame the small forwards after every loss.
Starved of opportunities?
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-29-2024
Four Port mids in the coaches votes including the top two vote getters Wines and Drew...game over.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 07-29-2024
(07-28-2024, 09:07 PM)pinot link Wrote:They had no impact so yeah. Need to do better - pressure count was too low.
Motlop has kicked 4 goals in 2 games.
If he managed that for a whole season, he'd win the coleman.
Maybe he isn't the problem.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - madbluboy - 07-29-2024
Midfield got beaten and our defenders folded.
Could you imagine our backline trying to contain Charlie and Harry?