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Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - crashlander - 07-11-2024
Our line-up:
B: [2] Lachlan Cowan, [23] Jacob Weitering, [17] Brodie Kemp
HB: [42] Adam Saad, [22] Caleb Marchbank, [24] Nic Newman
C: [46] Matthew Cottrell, [9] Patrick Cripps, [13] Blake Acres
HF: [39] Alex Cincotta, [30] Charlie Curnow, [6] Zac Williams
F: [10] Harry McKay, [12] Tom De Koning, [8] Lachie Fogarty
R: [27] Marc Pittonet, [18] Sam Walsh, [5] Adam Cerra
Int: [37] Jordan Boyd, [20] Elijah Hollands, [4] Oliver Hollands, [7] Matthew Kennedy, [44] Matthew Owies
Em: [38] Sam Durdin, [3] Jesse Motlop, [29] George Hewett
I am scratching my head, but I often am.
[1] Pitto back is OK: he was very good last week and would be good against English. But, does that suggest Tom de Koning isn't fit? Not sure I'm happy with our ruck backup, because there isn't one. Hopefully Tom is fit and the question becomes moot.
[2] Fantasia out makes sense, but leaving Cottrell in? He clearly need a good run to get form and fitness. I would have done that with the VFL. Hewett is the obvious replacement, but Cuningham also impressed and played a full game.
[3] Ollie H must be on fairly thin ice. He gets pushed out of the way too easily.
[4] Motlop as emergency I can live with. He was pretty quiet but for his goals, but they were pretty good ones. He only really cam alive in the last quarter.
[5] Marchbank in for McGovern: last week Marchbank was decent negatively, but he couldn't buy a possession. And his 3 previous games were worse, to be honest, being beaten by guys not even on an AFL list. Yet he was better than Young? Young hasn't been overly impressive in the VFL, but he hasn't been alone there. He, at least, found plenty of ball last week. Sam Durdin was emergency? Another head scratch, as he's been pretty ordinary of late.
[6] Who to play on Bontempelli? Do we play Cincotta on him? Or do we use Cincotta on Libba or Treloar? Might be a better fit height-wise. I would like to starve all of these guys, as they are the danger players.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - pinot - 07-11-2024
Pitto dominated the ruck against GWS but really Keefe is no where near it
I thought our best defender was Lewis Young - but Marchy is more a like for like but not sure that VFL game was one of his best in fact rewarding players for bad VFL form doesn't send a good message especially for the likes of Motlop that played pretty well and has for a couple of weeks now.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-11-2024
Id expect Keath to come in for the Bulldogs, they cant be serious about playing Khamis at Full back on Charlie.
Reckon TDK will be a late out and Hewett into the lineup. Young was ok last week in the twos and Marchbank just serviceable so I reckon Young is on the way out at seasons end if he cant get a game vs his old mob and with us undersized with Darcy.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - JonDorotich - 07-11-2024
The “we’re all very clear on our role” mantra combined with a distinct lack of player development across multiple positions during the pre-season is now limiting our match-day flexibility and is keeping a very good player out of the side. Surely Hewett is a better bet than at least a couple of guys in that side in “their role”?
It’s great to know your role, but most of our guys should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time - Cincotta can. Why we haven’t trialled DeKoning at CHB or swapped Curnow and Weitering from time to time is bewildering. This week would be so much easier if it was Pitto in and TDK to CHB rather than Marchbank or Young.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - townsendcalling - 07-11-2024
We have 6 or so weeks to go plus finals. Cripps, Walsh and Kennedy are all performing, Cerra is coming back from a long layoff. The odds are that within that timeframe, one of the above will get an injury or will need a rest. Enter George Hewett. He will get his chance and I'm sure he'll take it with both hands. I feel that we are definitely in 'list management mode' heading to September, a new experience for all. A fresh, motivated George Hewett could do a lot of damage when it counts!
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - PaulP - 07-11-2024
A very decent team IMO. Hopefully De Koning and Weitering have been selected with all checks and balances in place.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - DJC - 07-11-2024
(07-11-2024, 09:52 AM)JonDorotich link Wrote:The “we’re all very clear on our role” mantra combined with a distinct lack of player development across multiple positions during the pre-season is now limiting our match-day flexibility and is keeping a very good player out of the side. Surely Hewett is a better bet than at least a couple of guys in that side in “their role”?
It’s great to know your role, but most of our guys should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time - Cincotta can. Why we haven’t trialled DeKoning at CHB or swapped Curnow and Weitering from time to time is bewildering. This week would be so much easier if it was Pitto in and TDK to CHB rather than Marchbank or Young.
The time to trial De Koning at CHB or swap Charlie and Weiters is during an internal match sim during the 2025 pre-season. It would be a short term experiment because we want Charlie and Tom playing in their best positions; key forward and ruck.
We will need both Pitto and Tom to counter English and Darcy.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - DJC - 07-11-2024
(07-11-2024, 10:04 AM)PaulP link Wrote:A very decent team IMO. Hopefully De Koning and Weitering have been selected with all checks and balances in place.
The only reservation I have is George Hewett missing out.
McGovern looked like he has been carrying an injury and the time he spent getting treatment against GWS may have been critical. Marchy is an ideal replacement and is more than capable of playing on Ugle-Hagan. That should free Kemp up to provide help as needed.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Gointocarlton - 07-11-2024
Marchbank in, that's scraping the bottom of the barrel. Dont like that selection one iota, must be giving farewell games if you believe the word on the BF street that he has told the club he will retire at seasons end.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - JonDorotich - 07-11-2024
(07-11-2024, 11:40 AM)DJC link Wrote:The time to trial De Koning at CHB or swap Charlie and Weiters is during an internal match sim during the 2025 pre-season. It would be a short term experiment because we want Charlie and Tom playing in their best positions; key forward and ruck.
We will need both Pitto and Tom to counter English and Darcy.
Flexibility heading into the finals is important - we are now so reliant on Weitering as the others don’t cut the mustard on opp key forwards. If we don’t try players in different positions get ready for a repeat of the Hogan show every time Weiters gets injured.