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Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Thryleon - 05-17-2024
I wouldn't call us bruise free. There was plenty of effort but not much method. Tactics are the difference between talent and ability and a good footy team. We rely heavily on talented individuals it seems.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-17-2024
(05-17-2024, 11:35 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:I wouldn't call us bruise free. There was plenty of effort but not much method. Tactics are the difference between talent and ability and a good footy team. We rely heavily on talented individuals it seems.Swans walked through our tackles and we had players pull up in contests. Look at the one per center stats too.
Rowbottom had 16 tackles....even stars like Heeney and Grundy worked hard tackling ,everything they did was effort based to win the game IMHO.
We have the talent as the first quarter showed..
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Gointocarlton - 05-17-2024
(05-17-2024, 11:41 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Swans walked through our tackles and we had players pull up in contests. Look at the one per center stats too.Yep, that's not effort. Ill cop a loss to a Sydney on the chin on a good day, but not like that one.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - cookie2 - 05-17-2024
(05-17-2024, 11:41 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Swans walked through our tackles and we had players pull up in contests. Look at the one per center stats too.Agree. Swans were ultra sharp while we footled and fumbled.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Thryleon - 05-17-2024
I think you boys are confusing getting blown away by a team in peak physical form, fitness with a team thats been banged up, the boys were willing we just didnt have the wheels to go with them and got cut up once the swans running game got going. The Swans destroyed gws not long ago in similar fashion.
When you're slow and spemding your chips trying to go quick, the inside work eventually drops off because you're gassed. Last night wasn't about effort, or even desire. The desire was there, if it wasn't the first quarter doesn't happen where we go 4 goals up. The consistency is what's missing, and some capability.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 05-17-2024
I agree Thry. The boys are professional athletes. They have pride in their performance and they want to do well. They have the glare of the entire AFL community and are answerable to coaches, team mates etc. I'm not sure they can get away with being lazy, even if they wanted to. It's just not logical to think that.
Folks don't think that Voss can spot a half arsed effort a mile out ?
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Lods - 05-18-2024
(05-17-2024, 11:48 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:I think you boys are confusing getting blown away by a team in peak physical form, fitness with a team thats been banged up, the boys were willing we just didnt have the wheels to go with them and got cut up once the swans running game got going. The Swans destroyed gws not long ago in similar fashion.Yep
When you're slow and spemding your chips trying to go quick, the inside work eventually drops off because you're gassed. Last night wasn't about effort, or even desire. The desire was there, if it wasn't the first quarter doesn't happen where we go 4 goals up. The consistency is what's missing, and some capability.
Consistency of effort and cohesion between lines comes from a settled team playing together week out and week in.
Without it you get uncertainty.
There were some cringeworthy moments last night- silly handpasses to players under pressure , indecision about leaving your man to go to a contest, hesitation etc.
They are symptoms of a team struggling without normal structures.
Swans were able to man up on our key playmakers because there were so many others causing them no grief at all.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Baggers - 05-18-2024
Really liked Vossy's media conference. No excuses. Nailed the reasons - connection and lack of pro-activeness. He slammed shut the door on injuries as an excuse. Good.
I've banged on about being the hunters -- a mindset -- and that was low, except for the backline... most of them go hard and strong. The rest tried hard; lots of effort but confident, mongrel intensity was just not there... the kind of intensity needed to intimidate the opposition. The Bluebagger spirit evaporated last night. It wasn't us out there.
I felt for the backline... little defensive intensity from most of the mids. Midfield/forward line connection - non-existent... get your acts together relevant coaches - you are failing to instill ruthless intensity at the contest into your charges. As for the game-day strategic coach - obviously went home at qtr time once the Fluffy Ducks countered his strategies.
Easily broken tackles, dropped marks, looking tired... how can that be with not even half the season played? When that uncompromising determination is missing between the lugholes, you look slow, tired, inconsistent and lacking spirit.
Disappointed? Yep. Giving up on going deep into September? Not even a little bit. 100% confidence in Vossy... and Sammy. Perhaps some other coaches are letting down Vossy and the players. These coaches received some pretty damning feedback from the Fluffy Ducks. Leadership?
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Professer E - 05-18-2024
If DeKonig wants a bigger cheque he needs to start fronting up. Last night was not acceptable but he wasn't theone ranger in that regard.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Micky0 - 05-18-2024
Maybe not learning how to properly put teams away time and again means we’re using all our gas trying to hold on after getting to comfortable leads. When they start getting closer the panic sets in and structure goes out the door meaning we run around expending all this energy til the very end.
Not once have we gone on and torched the oppo when we’ve dominated in the past few seasons.