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Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-20-2024
(04-20-2024, 10:24 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Dunno that the whole side was bad in the first half, yes many were bad but they were admirably led by Charlie who had a mare in the first half. Worst half of footy I have seen from him in a long while. Again from my vantage point, the opposition moved it far too easily from the one end of the ground to the other. I commented to my mate and Junior G2C at half time that we haven't been hard to play against this year. We completely reversed that in the second half and we were the ruthless and bold Carlton from last year.Yep, it was a real sour grapes presser, GWS have some skillful players but several soft ones who don't like it hard and
I like GWS, they are a good side and despite Toby having brain fades at time, I'd have him in my side every day of the week and twice on Sundays. BUT their Beveridge clone coach is an utter flog who also has a head you want to punch. He seriously needs some lessons in humility and how to speak respectfully to the media (ie the public). Watch his presser and his carry on over the Greene Boyd incident and tell me if he doesn't make your blood boil.
are way overrated ie Whitfield, Coniglio, Kelly etc and Himmelberg enjoys taking big marks over little players but is pathetic against anyone his own size and without Taylor in the team got exposed as the fraud he is imo. Toby is a top player but can't help himself and turns into a undisciplined sook as does Hogan when things don't go their way...
Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS - dodge - 04-20-2024
First half skills were bad chasing was bad, pressure was bad, didn't have time with the footy and when we did in the forward line we rushed and kicked points. Backline wasn't cohesive.
As others said, got back in it with pressure and using the footy better. This bred confidence and away we went. Forward half pressure was amazing at times. It was good to be in the crowd.
Did note that all quarters were over 30 mins, without any delays for injuries, blood rule etc.
Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS - laj - 04-21-2024
(04-20-2024, 01:24 PM)northernblue link Wrote:The two rucks worked exactly as the match committee desired today.
Can they repeat consistently ?
TDK is regularly showing he can take a mark and kick a goal when forward.
Two rucks works PROVIDED one can play forward. We have that hence can work. If do don't then you can't play 2 rucks, ala Gawn and Grundy, as it ends up a liability to the side. You basically play one short.
Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 04-21-2024
(04-20-2024, 01:24 PM)northernblue link Wrote:The two rucks worked exactly as the match committee desired today.
Can they repeat consistently ?
It seems that Crippa is a huge fan of the two rucks structure and had been advocating for Pitto’s recall to address the clearance deficit. While that worked against Adelaide, Pitto and De Koning didn’t contribute enough around the ground to compensate for the loss of run and Harry’s input as second ruck.
Everything clicked yesterday with Pitto and De Koning dominating the hitouts, our mids dominating the clearances, Pitto pitching in around the ground, De Koning kicking goals and forcing GWS to put defensive effort into him, and Harry getting up the ground for telling contested marks.
There’s nothing wrong with playing two rucks, provided that they can do more than take part in ruck contests.
Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS - pinot - 04-21-2024
Went back to our brutal contested best in dominating clearances.
Goals from turnover have gone down a little to prop up our one wood.
No problem with two rucks but this team spends its energy in the contest so two rucks makes more sense as they add to the contested brutality. I guess we have two game plans a turnover game and inside game which is good for this group to pull different levers. Adding Cerra and Fogarty.. Doc next year adds to the brutality.
Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS - rocky - 04-21-2024
Never would I have imagined the Pitt / TDK ruck combination would've worked let alone worked so well as it did yesterday. Easily Pitto's best game for a while if not EVER. Was like a man possessed. Maybe his position was being questioned? Anyway, not sure if it will be replicated, but I guess we'll find out next week.
Didn't think we were playing badly from the get go but just kept missing shots on goal and the Giants seemed to make every shot. Then the blitz in the 3rd. Just came out of nowhere and it is so exhilarating
Cripps was outstanding. Just inspiring.
Walsh magnificent. Like he's never been injured.
George is having a really, really good year. Thought he was past it early on but he just seems to be motoring.
Kennedy's best game for the year and couldn't have come at a better time
Surprised the soldiers that came in to cover in Cowan and Young did pretty well.
Just cameos all over the place. Cottrell, Durdin, Hollands x 2. Just brilliant.
The boys worked very well. Can we produce the same effort next week as we play the undefeated top team again? I hope so! Glad it's at the G
Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS - WASurfer - 04-21-2024
Pretty much a full team effort across the board....with outstanding contributions from Cripps/Walsh.
The 1 ruck v 2 ruck debate has gone on before and probably will again, but I thought Pittonet was superb today and was okay last week first up too. His contested work yesterday was fantastic and it seemed to allow TDK a bit more freedom when he went on the ball or drifted forward.
Missing Doc, Saad and McGovern down back but the likes of Young and especially Kemp and Cowan stood up. With Saad out for 6 weeks, great opportunity for Cowan now....looks as tough as nails and doesn't shirk the contest.
Charlie frustrates and should've had at least 3 goals at half time and sometimes looks like he needs to work a lot harder....but seems to be able to hit the scoreboard nearly every week. Similarly, Harry was clunking big marks up on the wings, but couldn't hold the ones closer to goal....but turned it around too.
Elijah Hollands looks like he'll be a player for us. Goes in hard and just some untidy disposals let him down yesterday.
Then the unsung blokes like Cotters, Kennedy, Durdin, Owies etc who chipped in with goals and assists.
Really surprised we went in as favourites with the bookies but that's close to the best win under Voss IMO.......missing blokes like Doc, JSOS, Martin, Motlop, Saad, McGovern and Cerra....that's 7 blokes likely in the starting 23....as well as Marchbank and Cunningham. What it shows is that we finally have some depth.
Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS - RiverRat - 04-21-2024
(04-21-2024, 12:14 AM)DJC link Wrote:There’s nothing wrong with playing two rucks, provided that they can do more than take part in ruck contests.
A very important proviso but one that seems even more likely if the umpires continue to adjudicate centre ruck contests in the current manner, which allows Pitto to push his opponents around in a way that tended to get him penalized in previous seasons..
Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS - RiverRat - 04-21-2024
(04-21-2024, 03:17 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Charlie frustrates and should've had at least 3 goals at half time and sometimes looks like he needs to work a lot harder....but seems to be able to hit the scoreboard nearly every week.
Charlie has the athleticism to do much more but he doesn't chase hard after an opponent with the ball anywhere near as hard as he chases a loose ball that he thinks he can possess.
Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS - LoveNavy - 04-21-2024
(04-21-2024, 04:05 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:Charlie has the athleticism to do much more but he doesn't chase hard after an opponent with the ball anywhere near as hard as he chases a loose ball that he thinks he can possess.
His partner in crime does though. Big H laid a couple of super tackles / pressure acts that gave us important opportunities.