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Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - madbluboy - 04-07-2024
In 2022 we missed the finals by a point with 2 questionable blocks paid against us in the final quarter of the season. No one cried for us then so stuff them.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - blueboys_1 - 04-07-2024
(04-07-2024, 02:35 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:You often see the ball brush a hand or arm of a player then is marked properly by their opponent, everyone accepts thats a mark around the ground, we only have this hoo haa because of the state of the game and the resulting goal.
Freo lost the game fair and square and only have themselves to blame, as others have said they were probably the better team on the day and its stings losing like that but good teams find a way to win and non contenders like Freo find ways to lose.
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Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - DJC - 04-07-2024
(04-07-2024, 03:14 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:As for the Fog incident, I no longer think it can be a fine after looking at the criteria, he will miss a week or 2.
Careless, medium impact to the body; fine at most.
Vossy dismissed it as two players going for the ball and he's usually careful not to comment on MRO matters ... but then there's the Plowman suspension :-\
I'm more concerned about Fog's wrist. He seemed to be concerned about it after the collision and I wouldn't be surprised if he's fractured his scaphoid. Fingers crossed that he's OK.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - LoveNavy - 04-07-2024
(04-07-2024, 01:54 AM)LP link Wrote:Agreed, stuff like that is missed all the time, players can barely hear each other shouting let along for an umpire to detect a snick of the footy in real-time play, it happens all the time. btw., The Freo protest is valid, in the 4K x 100Hz slow motion it shows the ball flick Aish's bicep which ripples from the contact, and it also possibly flicks his hair but that could well be the breeze as the pill flys past.
Are we really going to expect umpires to detect that sort of incidental contact?
Regardless, to then stupidly abuse the umpire you get what you deserve.
Well said. I couldn't agree more.
Umpires, for various and obvious reasons will miss what a slow-mo camera picks up. That's the system. Players, umpires, and the ARC. The latter having a defined role.
Cottrell's goal sealed the game with seconds left on the clock. The touch wasn't called based on the system we have. Push on.
The Matt Kennedy free was awarded based on all umpires consulting. If the player's action was deemed a free, then so be it. We can't ask for much more than that from the umpires. I expect the offender will find himself doing some soul searching over his actions. IF it was deemed serious end umpire abuse, then the system has a mechanism for that too.
In the end, we stuck to our guns and kept our shape and composure at a critical time. Freo did not, but played very well for the remainder of the game. Moments. Games can be won and lost in Moments. We're growing our group to be the Masters of Moments and I love that!
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 04-07-2024
(04-07-2024, 04:31 AM)DJC link Wrote:Careless, medium impact to the body; fine at most.Ive read that under the the rules, neck is high (not body).
Vossy dismissed it as two players going for the ball and he's usually careful not to comment on MRO matters ... but then there's the Plowman suspension :-\
I'm more concerned about Fog's wrist. He seemed to be concerned about it after the collision and I wouldn't be surprised if he's fractured his scaphoid. Fingers crossed that he's OK.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - madbluboy - 04-07-2024
Fremantle defender Jordan Clark was penalised for dissent against Carlton after using the expression “f***ing idiot” but has told the club he was berating himself for allowing opponent Matthew Cottrell to mark.
This masthead understands Dockers players had been irate that key forward Jy Amiss had not received free kicks across the game while Carlton forwards had been rewarded in marking contests.
Clark allowed Cottrell to mark after George Hewett’s kick was sent forward, with the AFL on Sunday admitting their umpires missed the ball hitting James Aish’s forearm.
It was after that goal that Clark has told friends he uttered the expression “You f***ing idiot, Jordan”.
The umpire Alex Whetton immediately paid a free kick for dissent and the Blues extended their margin in a game that put them 4-0 for the season.
The league on Sunday admitted its umpires had missed the touched kick that landed in Cottrell’s lap.
Clark had been in constant chatter with the umpires all day and so it is understandable they believed he was again chirping over their decision-making.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 04-07-2024
(04-07-2024, 07:00 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Fremantle defender Jordan Clark was penalised for dissent against Carlton after using the expression “f***ing idiot” but has told the club he was berating himself for allowing opponent Matthew Cottrell to mark.The young fella will hopefully have learnt his lesson the hard way that gobbing off at the umps doesn't pay.
This masthead understands Dockers players had been irate that key forward Jy Amiss had not received free kicks across the game while Carlton forwards had been rewarded in marking contests.
Clark allowed Cottrell to mark after George Hewett’s kick was sent forward, with the AFL on Sunday admitting their umpires missed the ball hitting James Aish’s forearm.
It was after that goal that Clark has told friends he uttered the expression “You f***ing idiot, Jordan”.
The umpire Alex Whetton immediately paid a free kick for dissent and the Blues extended their margin in a game that put them 4-0 for the season.
The league on Sunday admitted its umpires had missed the touched kick that landed in Cottrell’s lap.
Clark had been in constant chatter with the umpires all day and so it is understandable they believed he was again chirping over their decision-making.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Blue Moon - 04-07-2024
So a player looking directly at the umpire and saids you f***ing idiot and he is taking to himself. Is that the defence's argument?
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 04-07-2024
(04-07-2024, 08:00 AM)Blue Moon link Wrote:So a player looking directly at the umpire and saids you f***ing idiot and he is taking to himself. Is that the defence's argument?Hilarious, especially as the umps said he was chirping at them all day. Just cop your medicine and move on son.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - LoveNavy - 04-07-2024
(04-07-2024, 08:11 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Hilarious, especially as the umps said he was chirping at them all day. Just cop your medicine and move on son.
There's an article in The West Australian (paywall). Whilst not relevant at the time of the decision, it gives some context. The AFL have on this issue at least, been consistently trying to stamp this out.
It covers an ex-AFL umpire's view of Mr Clark. He refers to Clark as a "spoilt brat, noting his repeat offences. Evidently He hasn't learned his lesson"