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Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - pinot - 05-22-2023
(05-22-2023, 10:58 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:For those that missed it, dow is the key, because he has all the attributes to be a senior footballer, and wants to play for us, refused to leave, and despite us being woeful, he can't unlock the tools to be a senior footballer.
Dow represents everything that's wrong with us. Top draftee, capable, wanting to, yet somehow the same kid we drafted on draft day.
Thats why we aren't getting anywhere and that's why we won't get anywhere until we unlock how to take a young kid, and make him a senior footballer.
Agree - but sometimes they don't make it. It happens in every draft given plenty of time and opportunities given. If they're not improving to a standard they need to be moved on. Owies and Cottrell showed remarkable improvement in their third year whereas Durdin in his third year has stalled badly - sometimes they even go backwards. rate of development is not linear and sometimes they improve as one expects them to after 3-4 years and sometimes they don't. harsh realities. Thats why club needs what Sydney has - a youth development squad.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - LoveNavy - 05-22-2023
Blues by 11.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Mantis - 05-22-2023
The more I read here, the more I think we will be a very unhappy group next week. Unless Sydney don’t turn up, it is difficult to see us win. A bad feeling in my stomach is that we haven’t bottomed out yet. This game style and zoning efforts show too many opportunities for clubs to rebound and score once we turn the ball over. We might be up in some statistics but get punished on the rebound far worse than when we pick up the ball on a turn over. Almost like a complete lack of self belief and self confidence. Terrible leadership. At ground level. A real coach killing club we are.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Gointocarlton - 05-22-2023
(05-22-2023, 03:29 PM)Mantis link Wrote:The more I read here, the more I think we will be a very unhappy group next week. Unless Sydney don’t turn up, it is difficult to see us win. A bad feeling in my stomach is that we haven’t bottomed out yet. This game style and zoning efforts show too many opportunities for clubs to rebound and score once we turn the ball over. We might be up in some statistics but get punished on the rebound far worse than when we pick up the ball on a turn over. Almost like a complete lack of self belief and self confidence. Terrible leadership. At ground level. A real coach killing club we are.I can't help but default to this statement in my mind every time things go south at our club. Seven coaches since our last flag, surely they all couldn't coach. Five since 2010, surely they all couldn't coach.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Professer E - 05-22-2023
How can a bloke get 40+ regularly at VFL, has size and pace and still not get a look in...and he didn't sook it up like a few on the list do. Sure his kicking isn't the greatest but it isn't that bad from what I've seen, and if he has it the opposition don't.
But hey, let's keep going with a truly horrid ball user like Ed, and George, who has stunk it up this season. Chuck in "deadly" who wouldn't chase a pizza truck and we just carry the same old passengers every bloody week.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Gointocarlton - 05-22-2023
(05-22-2023, 09:38 PM)Professer E link Wrote:How can a bloke get 40+ regularly at VFL, has size and pace and still not get a look in...and he didn't sook it up like a few on the list do. Sure his kicking isn't the greatest but it isn't that bad from what I've seen, and if he has it the opposition don't.Not playing Dow is indeed a mystery.
But hey, let's keep going with a truly horrid ball user like Ed, and George, who has stunk it up this season. Chuck in "deadly" who wouldn't chase a pizza truck and we just carry the same old passengers every bloody week.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - LP - 05-23-2023
The VFL stats only tell part of the story, they don't publicly report DE% for the VFL but if Dow cracks 50% or more it would be a surprise. I wouldn't be surprised to find his DE% is sub-40%.
I've watched him win the footy time after time, and miss targets time after time, fans make generalised statements like, "It's not that bad" because they remember the odd highlight at VFL and at VFL it often doesn't cost.
But in AFL that 50% or 60% miss rate against good teams rips your heart out and beats you with the soggy end!
At AFL level we already struggle to deal with turnovers and we often go at 60% DE or better, we need players who make the DE even better not worse! Put Dow at somewhere like the Filth and he would be a ball winning star, he might be a great replacement for Mitchell, because he would be surrounded by elite ball users.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Professer E - 05-23-2023
Sorry, I watch games too and hes not that bad so I call bulldust. If he was so crap why wasn't he culled two years ago?
The side is screaming for breakaway pace from stoppages, what have we got to lose here?
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - BluePhantom - 05-23-2023
We should...
Drop McGovern for not putting his glass body on the line.
Drop Durdin for being a spectator
Bring in Kemp to the backline, should never have been dropped.
JSOS to backline, needs to improve his confidence
Young to the Fwd line, has great hands and is a decent kick.
Kennedy to Fwd line, can kick goals and we need a mid sized fwd.
Motlop to on the ball, give him freedom, he has the tools.
Cincotta to backline, I like his old school approach
Cowan in, another no nonsense footballer
Boyd stays, did nothing wrong last game and can only improve
McKay to follow Franklin, might learn something.
TDK to come in as well.
(Probably have too many players in but...)
Get them to enjoy the game again, have fun, attack, attack. Small ground.
Honour the fwds leads. Although the fwds will have to lead for this to happen. We did this relly well against Wet Toast.
Have crumbers goal side of the contest, we ALWAYS have no one and they get it out too easily.
Kick to ADVANTAGE. Curnow and McKay one on one will win every time. If it is kicked on their heads it is a lottery.
Play for the team. Rewards for the 1%ers and goal assists.
Run hard when you have the ball AND run harder when you don't have the ball
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - LP - 05-23-2023
Inventing roles for SoJ and Young won't fix our problems.
If you want Kemp in then give SoJ the flick and bring Kemp straight into the F50.
(05-23-2023, 03:06 AM)BluePhantom date Wrote:McKay to follow Franklin, might learn something.McKay must be a miracle worker, can be at both ends, one following Franklin and the other winning one on ones every time, unless you think he's a certainty to defeat Franklin one on one in our D50 every time.
Kick to ADVANTAGE. Curnow and McKay one on one will win every time. If it is kicked on their heads it is a lottery.
I'd be happy to see McKay defeat Franklin one on one just once! :o