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Re: Sport, sponsors, activism and politics - Baggers - 10-30-2022
(10-30-2022, 12:05 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Did she apologise of her own volition or when it was pointed out to her that she is a racist?
Also, difference is Magda did something abhorrent, Gina hasn't.
To suggest that Magda is a racist based on a comedy sketch she did many, many years ago is an overreach. Her tasteless sketch was part of a comedy routine... which is disgusting based on today's moralities and sensitivities, but, embarrassingly, it was a part of the comedy landscape way back then. It was an entertainment performance, with the audience knowing just that - it was pretend. Since that time Magda has more than atoned, with apology and willingness to learn and change. On top of that she has committed much of her time to humanitarian/philanthropic causes - more than ample evidence of her sincerity.
Gina's failure to speak in opposition to her father's appalling attitudes today, leaves the door wide open for any reasonable person to interpret that as agreement or at best, ambivalence, to his inhuman attitudes.
Re: Sport, sponsors, activism and politics - PaulP - 10-30-2022
(10-30-2022, 10:23 PM)Baggers link Wrote:To suggest that Magda is a racist based on a comedy sketch she did many, many years ago is an overreach. Her tasteless sketch was part of a comedy routine... which is disgusting based on today's moralities and sensitivities, but, embarrassingly, it was a part of the comedy landscape way back then. It was an entertainment performance, with the audience knowing just that - it was pretend. Since that time Magda has more than atoned, with apology and willingness to learn and change. On top of that she has committed much of her time to humanitarian/philanthropic causes - more than ample evidence of her sincerity.
Gina's failure to speak in opposition to her father's appalling attitudes today, leaves the door wide open for any reasonable person to interpret that as agreement or at best, ambivalence, to his inhuman attitudes.
I agree. Szubanski is on the public record saying the alt right trolls are quite correct in calling her out on it, and she has no issue with that. I think she has demonstrated she understands the errors of her ways, and has tried to make up for it.
Re: Sport, sponsors, activism and politics - madbluboy - 10-30-2022
I'm sure team left would be equally as forgiving if photos of Gina in black face emerged.
Re: Sport, sponsors, activism and politics - PaulP - 10-30-2022
I'm sure team right missed the memo that nobody is claiming perfection, and that what you do about your errors is as important as the errors themselves. Team right also struggles to understand difference and nuance, and resorts to clutching at straws to maintain the rage, with one supposedly shocking expose after another.
Re: Sport, sponsors, activism and politics - northernblue - 10-31-2022
(10-30-2022, 11:28 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Magda apologised for herself being racist not her parents.
NO ONE is expected to apologise for their parents, some may choose to, but thats their personal choice.
The issue is that the daughter refuses to comment on her fathers beliefs... its easy to say "I hold no such beliefs"
Re: Sport, sponsors, activism and politics - northernblue - 10-31-2022
(10-30-2022, 10:49 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:I'm sure team left would be equally as forgiving if photos of Gina in black face emerged.
I'd be especially forgiving if Gina was sterilising herself whilst wearing blackface
Re: Sport, sponsors, activism and politics - LP - 10-31-2022
Some of the very same people that rallied to attack Carlton's theme song because of it's black face origins, seem absent and silent on Magda's past simply because it doesn't seem to suit the current agenda.
Let's not even discuss the Newman incident, which as I recall was also part of a comedy sketch.
Fat white wealthy lesbian leftist angel of mercy, versus the ageing privileged wealthy white middle aged man in lycra demon racist!
I'm not sure I could find a better or more definitive examples of both "hypocrisy" and "arbitrary" in a such acts, and I'm not sure you'll find a better example of the plasticity of reporting in a post-truth world! It's so plastic some have bent over backwards far enough to kiss their own clacker.
Yet they expect, actually they demand, to be taken seriously! :o
I'll never understand how people can maintain face while adjusting rules of judgement dependant on the target.
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Re: Sport, sponsors, activism and politics - Gointocarlton - 10-31-2022
Dan to the rescue, Vic Gov has given NA $15M. He is the master at point scoring, go on him though.
Re: Sport, sponsors, activism and politics - LP - 10-31-2022
(10-31-2022, 02:17 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Dan to the rescue, Vic Gov has given NA $15M. He is the master at point scoring, go on him though.Earlier this century the Vic government gave Hancock a 100 year exclusive rights deal to access, mine and develop the swath of land stretching from East Gippsland to Apollo Bay which is full of light metals like titanium sands, rare earths and other precious minerals. At the moment she does nothing with it, because the lease goes up in value day after day, week after week earning her billions on paper for doing nada.
I'm not sure the current move is so altruistic, it might be more about looking after Hancock than NA!
Whether you agree with it or not, it's does show just how far ahead of the opposition Dan's crew are in terms of strategy and implementation. However, keep in mind, like the ports sale, when Hancock won the rights they immediately signed a joint venture agreement with China, so China profits as well!
Federally ports bad, but mining it seems is good, such is the arbitrary nature of politics.
Re: Sport, sponsors, activism and politics - Gointocarlton - 10-31-2022
(10-31-2022, 01:00 AM)northernblue link Wrote:NO ONE is expected to apologise for their parents, some may choose to, but thats their personal choice.100% NB
The issue is that the daughter refuses to comment on her fathers beliefs... its easy to say "I hold no such beliefs"