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Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - capcom - 05-29-2022
(05-29-2022, 11:43 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree....needs some more VFL time, very promising young player and has had some nice cameo moments but needs some more experience in a few other positions just to learn more about the game and as a few of us discussed needs some more conditioning.
It's where we're placed. Heaps of promise and far off from deserting the kid. I was a strong advocate for recruiting him and nothing has changed. A two game break will do him the world of good as it will for the group.
But, FFS, we could do with a break on the injury side of the ledger. And I'm totally in to tall recruits. We don't need any more smalls
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - Lods - 05-29-2022
Motlop will probably go back to the VFL and make way for Martin (If he got through the game OK)
He'll have learnt a thing or two playing at that higher level and some things to work on will have been explained to him.
He can try out his 'new' tricks with a little less pressure.
Long term he'll be fine. He has the skills...and a bit of a 'strut', so he doesn't lack confidence.
One of the things about injuries is that they throw extra pressure on those fringe players.
When a side is close to full strength those players can play to their strengths due to the support around them.
When that support is lost through injury they then have to step up and take a bit of extra responsibility, sometimes above their capabilities.
That's when they're exposed.
Where do we stand at the moment.
We probably need to win four more games to make the finals.
We should do that but, but the reality is we're probably in the 6th to 8th range rather than a top 4 side...even at full strength.
Next year though....
;D
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - cookie2 - 05-29-2022
Very disappointed to lose that but cheered by the way we fought back and nearly pinched it. We have developed a very tough professional edge already under Vossy and I now look forward with great optimism. Maybe no flag this year but I'm confident it is now very much on the horizon.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - blueboys_1 - 05-29-2022
(05-29-2022, 09:22 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I hate to say this but we were brave given the personnel out. Losing Weiters sucked ass, but our field kicking was as bad as their goal kicking. The pressured us into TO's in the middle of the ground and opened us up too many times.
Hate losing to them but to their credit, they didn't let us get "our" game going. I was at the opposite end of the ground to SOS in the last and my daughter and both thought it went through, I thought we won the game.
Not to be, we have a break and start again.
Was on the wing AFL members stand and from my angle and all the other Carlton supporters it was a goal. We went up as one celebrating only for the pies supporters telling us it was a point. In true Maxwell Smart style I said missed it by that much.
And from my vantage point I could see Sidebottom on his own so many times. Cost us at least 2 or 3 goals. Angry about that as even Saad would not go to him as he was moving into out defence line.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - blueboys_1 - 05-29-2022
(05-29-2022, 12:08 PM)LP link Wrote:I don't get why Cripps isn't being paid many frees for being held, it's like the umpires decide that if he initiates contact then it's his fault, but that is not the rule yet that is the way it seems to be adjudicated!
What is worse, it often costs us a midfield clearance, the opponents often just grab his arm and sling him off the ball or to the ground and it's play on.
Much like the free kick last week to Mills against Cripps. He ran straight at Cripps without looking at the ball and tackled him and gets a free kick for holding against Cripps. WTF. Swans went on to score a goal from that free kick.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - tonyo - 05-29-2022
Sad we missed out on the 4 points, but in reality, it would have been a steal of a win. However, this may be one of those losses that teaches us many things:
(1) When we play predictable down-the-line football, we have almost no chance of scoring. The two patches of the game where we flipped the lever and ran hard through the middle, we ran all over them. The same thing happened in our fade-outs against WB, Haw and PA. Better off playing some tempo footy rather than bombing it out of there.
(2) We have the ability to get up off the canvas, which I have not seen for many a year. The fighting spirit in the second and fourth quarters was fantastic - it's a pity about the third quarter in between. Take home message is we can now turn things around very quickly and should never consider a game out of reach.
(3) Some of our younger brigade were a bit exposed, but that is not a criticism of them. Over the next 4 weeks while we are down on some big names due to injury, I think we should be going back to more experienced players like Martin, Williamson etc for the outside roles
(4) We need to free up Adam Saad more - his run and carry was the catalyst for the second quarter turnaround, and he did the same thing in the last.
(5) In the short term, I would definitely try Brodie Kemp in the forward 50 just to provide some aerial competition - too many times we found Owies/Durdin/Motlop trying to outmark much bigger competition and losing. It also meant we were pushing De Koning into the forward line for more time than normal, and then we got smashed in the ruck.
(6) I really hope there is a 195cm diamond in the MSD who can start playing straight away. We have Wright, Lynch, Lobb/Tabberner, King over the next 4 games who would be licking their lips about a Weitering-free forward 50..
The next 4 games will be the defining period for our 2022 season. Win 2 of them, and with troops starting to return, we will be well in the hunt.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - blueboys_1 - 05-30-2022
From my perspective it was a great game to watch. The atmosphere was electric especially in the last 10 mins or so and when SOS almost kicked that goal I was jumping up and down with excitement only to be told it was a point.
After these last two years with COVID and not been able to see any football live to be at the MCG with a big crowd against the old enemy it was just unbelievable.
We lost but I was so proud of the boys for sticking to it to almost pull off the win.
Pies played well and maybe with Weitering and Harry we could of won it.
Yesterday I was pretty happy with the performance and the tram ride back into the city there was a lot of banter between both supporters groups. You could see that it meant so much to so many people that football was back in a big way at the MCG between two big clubs. The rivalry the passion the stick it up them mentality which I have not felt for so long was there yesterday.
Today I feeling a little flat, we should of won it, so close yet so far. But I'm still proud of out boys and I can see the light at the end of tunnel after 20 years of darkness. We may not make the top 4, finals yes I would say, but boy there are a few teams that will be looking over their shoulder at us, because when we get our full team back look out were coming for you.
GO BLUES
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 05-30-2022
(05-29-2022, 09:05 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Melbourne lost May yesterday and they capitulated.
Its funny how despite all our injuries last year, it was Teagues fault.
We have next to none at the start of this year, we are top 4.
We start having some more and suddenly standards drop again.
What happened to Melbourne should be the gold star example of "its not the coach".
I'm happy with Voss and what he has been able to do.
I'm happier that we've had a good run with our perennially injured players Charlie, Doc....and fingers crossed on Marchbank.
Are we a top 4 side?
Depends on our injuries.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - tonyo - 05-30-2022
(05-30-2022, 02:40 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Are we a top 4 side?
Depends on our injuries.
You could say the same about any side in the 8 at the moment. In most years, the Premier team has a pretty decent run with injuries, certainly at the business end of the season.
Fingers crossed, we've copped our share, so when we get a few back, the scales of fair/unfair tip a bit back our way and we have a better run in the second half.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-30-2022
Not sure about May missing being the reason Melbourne lost, they were due like us and Freo have a very decent defense with size which is underated IMO. Langdon and McDonald missing also messed with their structure and both us and the Dees were ripe to be knocked over...