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Re: AFL Rd 7 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs North Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-01-2022
(05-01-2022, 12:53 AM)rocky link Wrote:Eleni was terrible because North wear the colours of the Greek flag, clearly!Horne Francis is another chip off the old Nth block of snipers, gave JSOS a cowardly cheap shot and was lucky it was Jack who doesn't react as much as others. One of his teammates collected him with friendly fire so he had to go off with a bad neck so karma did it's job.
Watched the replay late last night and have to say that Horne-Francis is a dirty sniper and fits in well with the Ziebell and Zurhaar's of this irrelevant excuse of a football club. Hope they lose every game for the rest of the year and fade off into oblivion.
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Next time he plays us I'd be targeting him for some heavy treatment everytime he goes near the ball..
Re: AFL Rd 7 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs North Melbourne - LordLucifer - 05-01-2022
We still only played one quarter of, admittedly, very powerful footy, to get the win.
Carroll looks a player, shame that Stocker got injured and it pains me to say it but even Plowman had a reasonable game.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs North Melbourne - LP - 05-01-2022
(04-30-2022, 09:57 PM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:FMD surely she had to call that back and ball it up.There are two other umpires out there who could have intervened and didn't as well, while she was on the ground they had an unobstructed view of what was happening..
Re: AFL Rd 7 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs North Melbourne - 31Tommys_barber - 05-01-2022
(05-01-2022, 02:58 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Horne Francis is another chip off the old Nth block of snipers, gave JSOS a cowardly cheap shot and was lucky it was Jack who doesn't react as much as others. One of his teammates collected him with friendly fire so he had to go off with a bad neck so karma did it's job.I would like to think every opposition player gets some heavy treatment whenever they go near the ball
Next time he plays us I'd be targeting him for some heavy treatment everytime he goes near the ball..
Re: AFL Rd 7 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs North Melbourne - LP - 05-01-2022
(04-30-2022, 11:43 PM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Agree, was terrible and lacks control of the game imo, players pinged immediately for holding the ball, incorrect disposal then others given half an hour, swung 360 degrees and it's play on...??I went back and looked at a couple of those on the replay and I think she got it right, in every case the player either motioned to baulk or went to handball and didn't just before being tackled. That's prior opportunity under the current implementation.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs North Melbourne - LP - 05-01-2022
(05-01-2022, 03:40 AM)31Tommys_barber date Wrote:I would like to think every opposition player gets some heavy treatment whenever they go near the ballHorne-Francis won't last long in AFL if he's doing that shizen in season one!
Re: AFL Rd 7 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs North Melbourne - Mav - 05-01-2022
Yep, I think those who don't like the prior opportunity component are happy to ignore it when they compare different examples. But once you've had prior you have to get rid of it immediately upon being tackled. When the player with the ball is tackled by someone grabbing the bottom of the jumper from behind, that's still a tackle if it retards the player. It doesn't have to stop the player in his tracks, it just has to knock a few km/h off his progress. I'm sure the ball carrier on that occasion knew he was being tackled and he had his hands free so he should have just squirted a handball out ahead of himself. Instead, he started looking around for options as if he were a QB with 5 seconds to target a receiver.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs North Melbourne - Lods - 05-01-2022
(05-01-2022, 03:53 AM)Mav link Wrote:Yep, I think those who don't like the prior opportunity component are happy to ignore it when they compare different examples. But once you've had prior you have to get rid of it immediately upon being tackled. When the player with the ball is tackled by someone grabbing the bottom of the jumper from behind, that's still a tackle if it retards the player. It doesn't have to stop the player in his tracks, it just has to knock a few km/h off his progress. I'm sure the ball carrier on that occasion knew he was being tackled and he had his hands free so he should have just squirted a handball out ahead of himself. Instead, he started looking around for options as if he were a QB with 5 seconds to target a receiver.
The problem is not so much with the rules but the inconsistency of interpretation by the umpires.
Some players were penalised right away last night. Others were given until this morning to dispose of it.
If you apply a strict interpretation a player like Cripps would be free kicked out of the game.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs North Melbourne - crashlander - 05-01-2022
I was pleased last night for a lot of reasons:
[1] We put a team away, even with many of our more important players unavailable. We haven't done that in years.
[2] Plowman might have been lucky to get a game, as the only reason he came in was for the late out of Williams, but he really deserved his spot last night. He looked the fittest he has all year. He didn't panic and he went for his marks. He'll play next week because he deserves to, not because someone else wasn't fit.
[3] We saw the beginnings of a real career last night in the development of Lewis Young. Instead of just punching the ball, he had the confidence to go for his marks and the ability to take them. Well done, young man. That was what we've been needing, as it take a lot of pressure off Weitering.
[4] We also saw another career start last night: Jack Carroll. He wasn't overawed. he worked hard. His disposal was neat. He got in the right spots and he was hard at the ball. A pleasing debut.
[5] Our smaller forwards/mids have copped criticism of late, but they worked really hard last night. Owies got some rewards, and while he still, only managed a handful of possessions, he tackles hard. He had 5 possessions for 3 scoring shots and 8 tackles. I really liked that. Durdin got a bit more of the ball, 11 possessions and 4 tackles. He tried hard, but things didn't really go his way. Martin appeared more involved for longer, although he is still a long way from being a 4 quarter player. He competed well, instead of just leaving it someone else. Fisher had a much better game, and was so much more effective than he has been. His run was good, but his kicking was much better. He didn't turn the ball over the way he has been doing.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs North Melbourne - Mav - 05-01-2022
But sometimes the apparent inconsistency is explained by prior opportunity or the lack of it. This adds a layer to the decision-making process and that means more room for mistakes from umpires. Trying to dumb down the rules to make it easier for the umpire to adjudicate isn't necessarily the answer. For instance, It'd make it easier for cricket umpires if they did away with the exclusion of balls which bounce outside the leg stump or balls which make contact outside the line of off-stump where the batsman plays a shot, but that would introduce other problems.