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Re: AFL Rd 3 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Hawthorn - DJC - 04-03-2022
Our first quarter was probably the best football we have played for a decade or more. What happened next may have been a product of over-confidence or simply that Hawthorn's pressure disrupted our forward 50 entries and gave them the opportunity to score from rebounds.
What I think is indisputable is that Carlton teams of the last decade would have given up when we lost the lead in the last quarter. The fact that we got the lead back and defended it successfully is probably more important than the champagne footy we played in the first quarter.
The coaches and playing group will have a bit to take out of the game and that must help with our development. Meanwhile, 3-0 is probably beyond even the most optimistic supporter's expectations, particularly when the third win is over a previously undefeated team and one that we've struggled with recently.
Another positive is the first up form of Lewis Young. Despite the pressure on our defence from turnovers in our forward 50, Young showed good judgement and poise and, with Weitering, controlled the air with his marking and contest-killing spoils. Boyd was a less successful inclusion and he has to make way for Saad's return. The other likely change is Martin for Fisher.
Meanwhile, Paddy Dow is hammering on the selectors' door and Motlop, Kemp and Stocker aren't far behind.
A great win in the circumstances.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Hawthorn - 31Tommys_barber - 04-03-2022
Very impressed with Young looked like he was given a job to do on Lewis and he stuck to it. Not flashy but steady with no Chaos kicking and I think will be a good partner to Weitering for awhile.
Can’t believe the dog’s rucked him with their undersized backline on todays form a definite win for Austin’s recruiting. Unfortunately Boyd dime a dozen VFA player others should now be preferred in front of him but he has had a taste of what’s required and the extra pace etc might help him to improve to handy level
Re: AFL Rd 3 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Hawthorn - LP - 04-03-2022
(04-03-2022, 12:40 PM)DJC date Wrote:Our first quarter was probably the best football we have played for a decade or more. What happened next may have been a product of over-confidence or simply that Hawthorn's pressure disrupted our forward 50 entries and gave them the opportunity to score from rebounds.I was at the ground and I have to say a lot of us saw the momentum swing coming. Despite our start we looked flat, even in the 1st term, like the first two rounds had taken a lot of run out of our legs. We were terrific at the contest, but once the Dawks got into the open we were struggling to react and then slow to chase.
As much as fans bag LoB and Setters without those two today deep running from BP to FP we would have lost. Along with BigH, SoJ, Hewett and Owies they were the only others who ran hard all day. Even Cerra looked flat.
Dawks inexperience played into Weiters hand, and our ball use did much the same at the other end, we fatigued very early and the decision making and ball skills went out the window.
Dawks were undersized today, and after 1/4-time we could leverage that, it wasn't a great game.
Part of the problem will be new coach versus new coach, neither appeared clued up on what the other was doing and it showed.
Dawks dragged the likes of Durdin and Owies we'll up the ground after 1/4-time, and this meant despite being given lots of opportunities we had nobody at the feet of BigH, SoJ and Charlie running interference. It's a weakness in our game plan and when we lose the centre clearance it sticks out because we need Durdin and Owies chasing up beyond the wing.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Hawthorn - Gointocarlton - 04-03-2022
(04-03-2022, 11:22 AM)deepbluesee link Wrote:I'm still not sure who came off for Martin, was it Pittonet?100% Pittonet is the AFL report.
And does activation of the sub mean the player who came off is automatically ruled out for the next match?
Re: AFL Rd 3 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Hawthorn - DJC - 04-03-2022
(04-03-2022, 10:16 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:100% Pittonet is the AFL report.
We will get a “please explain” for that as Pitto didn’t seem to be injured.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Hawthorn - LP - 04-03-2022
(04-03-2022, 11:36 PM)DJC date Wrote:We will get a “please explain” for that as Pitto didn’t seem to be injured.Twice he went to ground in the last 5 minutes and struggled to get up off the deck without assistance.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Hawthorn - capcom - 04-04-2022
The eight is certainly shaping up to be different from 2021
Re: AFL Rd 3 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Hawthorn - RiverRat - 04-04-2022
(04-03-2022, 09:25 AM)laj link Wrote:We look like we have gassed out in the last half of the last 2 matches. Maybe we're not used to running so hard....lol.
Not a joke - I think the high pressure game that we are playing is almost impossible to sustain for an entire match - maybe we will gain further conditioning as the season progresses - if not, we will need to improve the efficiency of plan B for when we need to play some tempo football.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Hawthorn - WASurfer - 04-04-2022
We looked to try and be a bit cute after 1/4 time was how I saw things.....but obviously just from the TV. Gone was the precision kicking into the forward line and a bit of the old fashioned panick kicks and handballs crept back in....Williams a culprit for sure.
But wins over the Hawks have been few and far between over the years so I'll take the 4 points. We've found a way to win all 3 games....twice when we've been behind in the last quarter....and against the Dogs (last year's Grand Finalists) when they were coming hard. In recent years we probably would've lost all 3.
I thought Young showed some really good signs with some confident marks and big spoils. Long term he's probably the second key defensive bloke with McGovern more of an intercept role.
Boyd didn't look up to the tempo at all so probably goes back out for Saad assuming Saad is right to go.
Probably sound like a broken record but Silvagni is just such an important player for us. He plays the perfect 3rd tall option but he's ferocious when it hits the ground and/or if we haven't got the ball. His non-stop running and chasing and tackling sets the example and it was fitting that he kicked the winning goal IMO.
Weitering and Docherty huge down back and I thought Newman was a lot more composed today.
Anyone else notice how good Hewett is at keeping his feet and getting his arms free when tackled so he can still get rid of it? He's been a huge bonus and, along with Kennedy's form, is one of the reasons we're 3-0. Walsh wasn't up to his usual lofty standards but when Hewett and Kennedy step up, it doesn't hurt us as much.
GC won't be an easy one either, especially up there but we've got the forward line and midfield more than capable of winning....dare to dream of a 4-0 start.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Hawthorn - LP - 04-04-2022
Gov - I'm convinced more than ever the player we missed was Gov, he has the ability to deliver some stability when we try to change momentum, then he can kick the eyes out of a crow at 50m, and when he does we change direction and all of a sudden we score.
Walsh might be professional and extremely talented, but it's obvious he's struggling fitness and strength wise having missed a chunk of pre-season.
Cerra might be cleared to play, but COVID or something has impacted his running ability.
De Koning struggled a bit, he started the season like a train but has gone off the boil, he might be carrying an injury and has lost elevation and timing in ruck contests. Some of this will be due to the weird umpiring penalties we have copped in the ruck, we shouldn't be changing the ruck tactics, we should be asking for a please explain from certain umpires about certain decisions and telling Pittonet and De Koning to ignore the aberration. When an umpire does a shizen bounce it's not the ruck's responsibility to clear out and give his opponent a free run, the ruck has a right to hold his ground and defend the fall of the ball! But the real problem is that when Nankervis does it he is not penalised, but when Pitto does it he's pinged for blocking, it's bullshizen variable umpiring!
Given the good form of BigH and Charlie, we have become a bit more predictable, we stopped picking out those smaller options as often and just started bombing it long to the taller timber too often.