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Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - laj - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 12:43 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Lyon is a massive step up on Teague.
DT has shown himself, on multiple occasions, to be pretty much clueless come match day.
And very weak defensively.
Is that on him or his assistants?
Both.
I've seen nothing - zero, nada - to suggest DT can get us to finals, let alone a flag.
Some of the losses to lower teams were inexcusable.
Some of the match committee decisions during the year were simply inexcusable.
Lyon got both the Saints and Freo to GFs with lesser lists than we have presently.
We can attack as well as any - and have the fire power to capitalise....
We just lack defensive structures/systems. Lyon's specialty seemingly.
Not fully convinced on Lyon. Not sure his style suits our list. We've always done best with coaches that attack more. Defence orientated coaches have gone by the wayside. Just need a proper balance.
Saints GF's were the decade before last. Last 3 years of his coaching he was an upgrade in that he beat Teague's 19 successive goals with 23 in 2018 and 12 of his 17 10 goal defeats were in his last 3 years. Looking at that he has Carlton written all over him....lol! Did he have lesser lists? Doubt it.
I was more impressed by Clarko's hunger to learn yesterday. I would prefer to let Teague coach out his contract and if he struggles then chase Clarko hard. Teague, with proper support and help, could sort out the defensive aspects and improve on his 2nd best record at this club in the last 20 years. Not to mention alot more scoreboard competitiveness. Wouldn't be the first in recent times to come good after a review put things in place for him.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - kruddler - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 12:55 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:To answer your last question, yes Clarkson but I think he is going to take a year off by the sound of it. S
More qualified? Yes.
More qualified to coach us? I disagree.
Ross knows more about our club. Ross knows more about other clubs in general. Clarko has been in the same job for how many years know? I see him, and i think Pagan. Good coach with some of the best players going around.....no good anywhere else.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - northernblue - 08-22-2021
The prospect of Teague coaching the final year of his contract next makes me feel ill.
If he is retained beyond Monday he must get a contract extension !!!
Can you imagine the past 4 weeks running all through the preseason and then the home and away ??
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - LP - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 02:54 AM)northernblue date Wrote:Can you imagine the past 4 weeks running all through the preseason and then the home and away ??It's been running since about Rnd 2 this year, when we'd lost the first games.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 08-22-2021
Well, that was a lot closer than I thought it would be. You have to give Teague credit for getting the boys up and about and staying in the game after last week's demoralising effort.
Realistically, without Jones and McKay, we are never going to trouble teams with their full quota of KPPs. Weitering is forced to focus on defending dourly and his intercept marking and creative use of the ball is sacrificed/missed. That said, keeping GWS to 12 goals was a decent effort and a credit to Plowman, Newman, Williamson, Kemp, Stocker and Saad who all found themselves competing against bigger, stronger opponents. I think Kemp is going to be a ripper.
At the other end of the ground, we had three underdone tall forwards, an ageing maestro, and a couple of kids. Scoring 11 goals was admirable, even if 4 of them came from the indefatigable Ed Curnow.
Yes, we conceded a run of goals again, but we fought back and, with an ounce of luck and sighted umpires, we could have snatched the win.
It was nice to see Eddie add to his goal tally but I think that his time has come. Levi was good, and if his knee holds up, I reckon we'll see him running around again next season.
Was that enough for Teague to keep his job? I'd like to think so.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 02:54 AM)northernblue link Wrote:The prospect of Teague coaching the final year of his contract next makes me feel ill.Spot on....with only 12 months it will be the Clarko shadow over DT's head all season and he will be on notice every week.
If he is retained beyond Monday he must get a contract extension !!!
Can you imagine the past 4 weeks running all through the preseason and then the home and away ??
If we start off with our usual loss to Richmond , he will be behind the 8 ball all season with rumors and innuendo about Clarko.
Extend by 2 more years to make it three is the only way he has a fighting chance....if not then just give Lyon the job now and let DT get on with his life and he might get to keep his hair and stop it going grey like it is now..
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - LP - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 05:45 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Spot on....with only 12 months it will be the Clarko shadow over DT's head all season and he will be on notice every week.I'll be gobsmacked if we extend Teague, it is not the sort of brave decision our club makes, and even if we did could Teague expect us to honour it?
If we start off with our usual loss to Richmond , he will be behind the 8 ball all season with rumors and innuendo about Clarko.
Extend by 2 more years to make it three is the only way he has a fighting chance....if not then just give Lyon the job now and let DT get on with his life and he might get to keep his hair and stop it going grey like it is now..
How can anyone trust our club, the only way we are going to attract people is now paying overs more than ever before, with big termination guarantees.
In my experience people you have to buy to front up are never reliable associates, they give in and surrender in a game of chicken when confronted with a true fanatic. The dollar people always want to live to earn another dollar another day!
In retrospect, I think Teague long term looks to be an even better coaching option than Ratten, which means if he wants to stick with AFL coaching he'll have serious options available to him by the time our replacement in Lyon or Clarkson are looking for their big super payout!
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - madbluboy - 08-22-2021
Teague will be sacked tomorrow, he's a nice guy but this a brutal business and this year was a complete fail.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - Shakin77 - 08-22-2021
Can someone remind me when the LOB bullet inside 50 was?
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - LP - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 06:01 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:Teague will be sacked tomorrow, he's a nice guy but this a brutal business and this year was a complete fail.Can you explain why you have this perception, relative to what your expectations were?