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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Macca37 - 06-06-2021
Those of us old enough to remember Superman will know that contact with kryptonite would make him go all weak at the knees.
The 50 metre arc has the same effect on our forwards. With the exception of Harry no forward will attempt to kick that distance from a set shot.
You can see the whites of their eyes as they desperately try to give the ball off to another forward, usually in a far worse position.
The best example today was when Owies took a mark about 45 metres from goal. Being a forward in the forbidden zone he passed to Murphy who was about 30 metres out. Feeling weak at the knees he managed to kick the ball to Cottrell who was about 20 metres out. Fortunately he was able to gather enough strength to kick the goal.
Seriously, what a miserable, unprofessional game from a group masquerading as AFL players.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-06-2021
(06-06-2021, 09:01 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:They had some real spuds in today, they were average we were terrible. Look at their record away and on this ground.That is as damning a post as I have read after a loss.
This was a disaster imo..
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-06-2021
(06-06-2021, 09:07 AM)rocky link Wrote:They had a WAY, WAY better side in last year when we played them over there in WA and took it up to them only to be denied by umpire 22. They lost to Essenscum last week and were 5 down from that side this week. Whichever way you look at it todays result was a disaster, but nothing we're not used to. Serious problems.Actually this post is more damning than [member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member] post.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-06-2021
(06-06-2021, 09:07 AM)laj link Wrote:Nearly every game is a disaster. Not much changes week to week.This is one we didn't to have to play like champs to win and we let it slip, I can cop losses but this one really annoyed me as it was setup for us to win but we managed to balls it up.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - crashlander - 06-06-2021
(06-06-2021, 08:12 AM)laj link Wrote:Chris Judd said it 3 years ago. At the Eagles the only focus was on how they can get better and challenge for the flag. When he came to Carlton all he heard from the players was about their next contract.Then not many of them would deserve one.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - laj - 06-06-2021
(06-06-2021, 09:13 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:This is one we didn't to have to play like champs to win and we let it slip, I can cop losses but this one really annoyed me as it was setup for us to win but we managed to balls it up.
Sadly, wasn't the slightest bit surprised.
Don't see it stopping any time soon in the next few years too unless some attitudes change within the club.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - crashlander - 06-06-2021
(06-06-2021, 07:55 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The main guys on the ABC call, Nick Davis and Ryan O'Keefe, mentioned a few times that we are a team that relies less on system and more on individual brilliance. And that's a problem according to them. And I agree.I am afraid that we do need to have a change in coach.
Blah.
I hate saying that, as it is an admission of failure. But we have failed. There is no greater certainty this year.
[1] We do not have a good system, or, if there is one, we don't appear to follow it.
[2] We don't win enough one-on-ones, mainly because our opposition is streaming forward with little pressure.
[3] Our ruck division is not up to taking on the AFL's best. Teams with a good ruckman smash us. Even Collingwood, and they are terrible.
[4] After the Hawthorn game I mentioned that even they have a better system than we do, and they are rubbish this year. You could see by the way they positioned themselves.
[5] Our players do not believe in themselves. They are accepting defeat too easily.
The season is over. After the bye, assuming we still have it, we need to start seeing if our kids have what it takes.
I really hate that, as it is an admission of failure, but what else can we do?
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - LoveNavy - 06-06-2021
Sheeeesh?
I'm all out of hope for this you beaut rebuild. Not only that but my optimistic mindset is being seriously challenged by the assurances, propaganda, and performances of our team. None of it adds up. I doubt I'll continue my long-term membership.
I see the progress of sides like the Swans and even the Bombers. There's no excuse/s I can think of that makes sense of our relative lack of progress at this point of the rebuild. We are still the laughingstock of the competition despite spending big on 2 good/average players. Now we're reportedly struggling to find the cash it sign the likes of our captain, main goalkicker, and main mid. What a predicament ?
To say I'm frustrated by today's performance over a seriously undermanned WC is a sad but true understatement.
In terms of hope for improvement post-bye. We have Walsh and Harry who we can rely on consistently, and Samo in terms of durability. Then there's daylight and no clear way forward.
End of rant.
I'll keep reading in hope of finding some positives ?
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - keogh - 06-06-2021
(06-06-2021, 08:08 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Murphy was poor but Jack Martin continues to disappoint IMO, Yeo was second game back after a long lay off and copped a knock in the head but was influential in the contests ,getting physical with our blokes and looking after Cripps.Tell me
Williams and Saad were ok but Martin isnt doing enough, he has the skills but continues as he did at GC to have low possession games and I'd be giving him a rocket if I was the coach and telling him to lift his work rate.
What has Martin achieved in his whole career
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-06-2021
The review should be fun this week, lots and lots of below average footage to trawl through and enjoy with the the guys. Seriously, they should review the game altogether in a room, Prez down to bootstudder. Look each other in the eye and sign off and what they are going to do to fix it. EVERYONE to a man/woman.