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Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Printable Version +- Carlton Supporters Club (http://new.carltonsc.com) +-- Forum: Princes Park (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-4.html) +--- Forum: Robert Heatley Stand (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-14.html) +--- Thread: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne (/thread-5211.html) |
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-12-2021 (05-12-2021, 08:47 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Luke Jackson out, broken finger.Handy out, things just starting to fall into place for an upset like I said...? Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Gags1960 - 05-12-2021 posted on the old post game thread v Dogs...god we miss Simmo could have got him easy for another year cheap and durable.....saving goals on the line directing traffic and going in fearlessly for marks in the hole v big fwds Newman meant to be the replacement big shoes to fill Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - PaulP - 05-12-2021 Simpson was brave, but we were giving up runs of goals throughout 2019 and 2020, when he was still playing. I doubt he would make much difference to our current predicament. Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Gags1960 - 05-12-2021 he was the g General directing traffic and filling in when needed... I disagree .....would have been barking hard at our loose kick chasing HB's inc the Doc,Willo and even Saad for not manning up Look what Hodge did for Lions for 2 years...that role needs a 250 game plus wise head back there...we had one and retired him off too early Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - PaulP - 05-12-2021 (05-12-2021, 09:53 AM)Gags1960 link Wrote:he was the g I'm not quite sure I'd be equating Simpson with Hodge, on any level. This point is of minor consequence, and barely worth worrying about. You are more than welcome to your opinion. Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Gags1960 - 05-12-2021 thx for letting me have my opinion....glad you are enjoying the way our defensive structures are working currently Any suggestions on how we stop 5-8 goal run ons v us....?. its not just out of the middle... Look forward to your suggestions Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - PaulP - 05-12-2021 (05-12-2021, 10:32 AM)Gags1960 link Wrote:thx for letting me have my opinion....glad you are enjoying the way our defensive structures are working currently You may have noticed these run ons happening when Simpson was playing. If you think bringing him back is the answer, I don't know what to tell you. Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Raydan - 05-13-2021 I’m fast losing faith in Teague’s assessment of the side and with that Teague as a coach. His statement that we are a flexible team could not be further from the truth, and that starts with Cripps, he is a clearance player only, sure he may be big (not that he is currently playing like it) but his one touch pickups are gone, his vision to get the ball to our advantage by hand has also let him. Instead he wants to burst away from a pack all himself and be the hero. Compare that to Pendulbury or Bont and both are happy to give a little handball if it gets their other players into space. Cripps is a one dimensional cut out of his former self, and with the game speeding up thanks to a few rule changes over the last couple of seasons, is not going to get any better. In fact if you look at the game against the Dogs, to win the ruck hit outs and to then have a C grade ruck in Pitto win the clearances just shows how far Cripps has sunk. It’s with this in mind that I think if he wants to go at the end of the season via free agency, provided we get a first rounder back for him, then let him go. While many will howl at the idea, it will go a long way to fix our team. We have two players who attend most centre bounces that struggle to play any where else, Cripps and Ed. Ed is limited but does a great job negating the best clearance player on the other side, while getting the ball himself, not that it’s a great possession most of the time. That leaves one spot vacant which Walsh is the logical choice, because of his level of play this year. So where do we fit Cunningham, Dow, SPS, Setterfield, Stocker, Williams, Fogarty etc? At the moment they are sent to a flank pocket or wing and given 5 minutes a game in the middle, leaving us with the question, why aren’t our young players better. The answer is because of the one dimensional play of Cripps and Curnow. Obviously Cripps is not going to be dropped or put on a flank, but his time should be diminished in the middle and he put in the goal square for 10 minutes a quarter. Ed needs to be able to tag of a flank or wing, but very rarely should we use both in the middle at the same time. If Cripps is in use a combination of two faster players like a Walsh Dow Cunningham, if Ed is in then look at a Stocker Setterfield to win the ball inside and move it forward. If neither then that’s when SPS and Fogarty or even Gibbons get a look in. Down back we are pretty good, however this needs a change too, Williams has been a non event in the middle and should be moved to the HBF to regain form and confidence, Doc I would move to the wing and drop Newnes who is a real list clogger. 12-15 touches a game equals a seconds player who gets a game for injury or bad form of another player. I would also want to see Newnam in as soon as possible, which would mean moving Stocker to the bench. Up forward we have seen how ineffective Fisher has been when compared to Owies who over the last 2 games has given us 5 goals plus pressure and the biggest thing I saw was Owies rushing a point last weekend, he wasn’t playing on ball, so to be to see him on the last line of defence means he must of followed his opponent into out backline, something that Murphy, Fisher, Gibbons just doesn’t do. Owies should not be dropped for the foreseeable future. That being said, we have no spot for Fisher, he is a forward by circumstance not by choice and to me is tradeable, because he will not get a spot in out midfield. Murphy should be an injury sub on or two times this season, just to get his tally closer to 300 without getting him on the field. So a team I’d like to see this week; FB Plowman Jones Newnam HB Williams Weitering Saad C E.Curnow Cripps Docherty R Pittonet Walsh Dow HF Fogarty deKoning Cunningham FF Betts McKay Owies I Parks, Stocker, SPS, Cottrell IS Murphy E Setterfield, Newnes, Williamson Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - laj - 05-13-2021 (05-13-2021, 12:18 AM)Raydan link Wrote:I’m fast losing faith in Teague’s assessment of the side and with that Teague as a coach. His statement that we are a flexible team could not be further from the truth, and that starts with Cripps, he is a clearance player only, sure he may be big (not that he is currently playing like it) but his one touch pickups are gone, his vision to get the ball to our advantage by hand has also let him. Instead he wants to burst away from a pack all himself and be the hero. Compare that to Pendulbury or Bont and both are happy to give a little handball if it gets their other players into space. I'd like to leave Cripps out for this reason. 3 others playing with injuries according to an insider on FB. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blues-skipper-cripps-has-been-playing-with-back-fracture-20210512-p57rd9.html Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-13-2021 Wayne Campbell has said Williams isn't an endurance player and if he plays midfield has to play as a burst player. Mentioned his achillies again and said he would play him half back. |