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Re: Post Game Philosphical Discussion: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - bratblue - 09-19-2020

(09-19-2020, 01:30 PM)JonDorotich link Wrote:I love this post

Big Nic is named well.


Re: Post Game Philosphical Discussion: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - RiverRat - 09-19-2020

(09-19-2020, 12:27 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Casboult - 2 possessions, 1 goal, 5 hitouts
TDK - 3 possessions, 2 hitouts
McGovern - 6 possessions
Polson - 6 possessions - 33% DE
McKay - 6 possessions, 3 goals
Betts - 7 possessions, 1 goal assist.
....
Pittonet - 11 possessions, 29 hitouts

Surely you could lose a tall from them. But it shows that ball didn't get to our forwards much

....and that Polson is useless.

Pittonet and TDK are currently ruckmen and playing both simply means that Levi never gets warm.

The only benefit provided by McGovern in defense is that Plowman and Williamson don't have to try and match up on taller forwards.




Re: Post Game Philosphical Discussion: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - RiverRat - 09-19-2020

(09-19-2020, 12:56 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Polson is just not good enough.  He isn't the whipping boy, plowman is.  Plowman was our best if not second best tonight.
I agree about Plowman; he has played well when not required to play on the third tall forward.  When he does, he panics and grabs to give away free kicks- also, he should never, ever be tasked with kicking in duties.


Re: Post Game Philosphical Discussion: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - IvanAwfulbigone - 09-19-2020

(09-19-2020, 01:03 PM)LP link Wrote:Levi's aggression is artificial, it doesn't come naturally to him and when Brisbane lifted intensity and aggression he retreated.

I’ve never seen a guy so disheartened when beaten for the ball. His whole body slumps in resignation. And you’re right - body on body work doesn’t come naturally to him, his timing is all off. When Neale outmarked him the commentators pointed out the kick was to the wrong side of Casboult (we are very poor in this regard). So maybe it’s a combination of poor positioning (should have done the quick peel off 360 pirouette and emerged on Neale’s right side) AND lack of strength through the hips?

But then, when the poor guy does show some genuine aggression a la that perfect tackle, he gets pinged.


Re: Post Game Philosphical Discussion: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - madbluboy - 09-19-2020

(09-19-2020, 02:56 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:I agree about Plowman; he has played well when not required to play on the third tall forward.  When he does, he panics and grabs to give away free kicks- also, he should never, ever be tasked with kicking in duties.

I agree with that, he was excellent yesterday. Perhaps as Kruddler pointed out the other week he wasn't getting the right match ups due to SPS and/or Simpson taking the non marking players.


Re: Post Game Philosphical Discussion: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - kruddler - 09-19-2020

(09-19-2020, 09:53 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:I agree with that, he was excellent yesterday. Perhaps as Kruddler pointed out the other week he wasn't getting the right match ups due to SPS and/or Simpson taking the non marking players.

I think Plowman suffers from the Bret Thornton problem.

Is a good player, who is asked to play on players he shouldn't have to most weeks because we have nobody else to do it.

I don't know how we can fit them all in, but i'd like to see Marchbank slotting back into the back 6 as he takes the players Plowman would struggle with, and has had to take in 2020.


Re: Post Game Philosphical Discussion: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-19-2020

(09-19-2020, 02:56 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:I agree about Plowman; he has played well when not required to play on the third tall forward.  When he does, he panics and grabs to give away free kicks- also, he should never, ever be tasked with kicking in duties.
Plowman typifies our side, the huge gap between his best and worst must be closed if we are to progress.


Re: Post Game Philosphical Discussion: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - Professer E - 09-19-2020

In an ideal world Marchbank and MacCreadie were supposed to be established members of our back six,  but they've played,  what 10 games, between them in the last three seasons? Chuck in Williamson and our defensive set up has spent the past 4 seasons on the hoist awaiting parts.


Re: Post Game Philosphical Discussion: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - Professer E - 09-19-2020

Walsh knifing through the pack in the last two minutes from the ruck contest would have been GOTY contender if he'd nailed it.  Brilliant roving and anticipation. 


Re: Post Game Philosphical Discussion: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-19-2020

(09-19-2020, 10:36 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Walsh knifing through the pack in the last two minutes from the ruck contest would have been GOTY contender if he'd nailed it.  Brilliant roving and anticipation. 
Just needed to slam it in the boot quicker and it would have been spectacular.