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Re: Post Game Postulations: AFL Rd 7: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Gointocarlton - 07-19-2020
(07-19-2020, 06:22 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Thats one way to look at it, sure.And despite poor umpiring, bigger PA bodies in the middle, yada yada, it came down to an exit ball 45-50 seconds from victory and instead of playing keepings off, a kick to a contest, a turnover and one of the games superstars ends up with the ball/game on his boot. Rest is history. Point is, composure was needed from the leaders and it wasnt there, especially Doc. Sounds harsh and critical, that's the reality, we never should have lost that game like that.
But how did Port get those chances?
50-50 umpiring calls went their way......especially in the last.
Harry in a holding match in the goalsquare = free kick port. Turn that the other way and they don't get close. Better yet, don't call anything but play on....and we win that game.
Eddies tackle, dropping the ball....nah, play on.
I think we got a kicking in danger called against us in the last....at least i think it was for that as i have no idea what it was for otherwise. You get that paid about 5% of the time......or 100% of the time if its against us in the last quarter.
So sure, have that belief if you want and it is somewhat valid. But Port don't get those calls if the umpiring was consistent....or even fair.
Re: Post Game Postulations: AFL Rd 7: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - kruddler - 07-19-2020
(07-19-2020, 06:35 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:And despite poor umpiring, bigger PA bodies in the middle, yada yada, it came down to an exit ball 45-50 seconds from victory and instead of playing keepings off, a kick to a contest, a turnover and one of the games superstars ends up with the ball/game on his boot. Rest is history. Point is, composure was needed from the leaders and it wasnt there, especially Doc. Sounds harsh and critical, that's the reality, we never should have lost that game like that.
I don't disagree with that, as i said earlier. Just saying that Port were given a leg up of sorts.
We SHOULD be good enough to win from there. But, at this stage, i'm just happy that we are in that position.
Thats our 4 game from our last 6 that has been decided by 3 points or less. The only other games was Dogs last week (Flogged them) and saints who won by 3 goals.
That kind of experience we get from being in that position will only help us in the future.
In case you've forgotten. We haven't exactly been in many winnable positions over the past 3 years, so its still a bit of a learning experience.
Re: Post Game Postulations: AFL Rd 7: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - laj - 07-19-2020
(07-19-2020, 06:35 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:And despite poor umpiring, bigger PA bodies in the middle, yada yada, it came down to an exit ball 45-50 seconds from victory and instead of playing keepings off, a kick to a contest, a turnover and one of the games superstars ends up with the ball/game on his boot. Rest is history. Point is, composure was needed from the leaders and it wasnt there, especially Doc. Sounds harsh and critical, that's the reality, we never should have lost that game like that.
That's the tough part of the maturing process of an up and coming side. Composure has hurt us a couple of times this year. Knowing how to ice the clock is a part of it. Those type of losses hurt more now than it would've back in the days we were on the bottom, which wasn't long ago.
Re: Post Game Postulations: AFL Rd 7: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - LoveNavy - 07-19-2020
(07-19-2020, 06:26 AM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:If any one of the umpires had spotted the illegal blocks which take out his opponent we win.
Apparently he’s the most “blocked for” player in the league. Obviously a well rehearsed set play.
The block ruling is perplexing.
Dixon's mark in the last was very obviously thanks to a block from one of their young brigade. He positioned, poked his butt out, braced, and kept Jones out of the contest. Couldn't have been more overt if he tried ???
Re: Post Game Postulations: AFL Rd 7: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-19-2020
(07-19-2020, 06:26 AM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:If any one of the umpires had spotted the illegal blocks which take out his opponent we win.We were not smart enough with Dixon, the Hoff and Marshall were just played as decoys and we fell for it everytime and left Jones one out to often. No one wanted to get in front of Dixon either, it was a no brainer Port would kick it to Dixon but I only saw Docherty once and young Walsh get in front of him. There was one piece of play where he ran down the ground and about three of our blokes jumped out the road and let him through.
Apparently he’s the most “blocked for” player in the league. Obviously a well rehearsed set play.
Re: Post Game Postulations: AFL Rd 7: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - PaulP - 07-19-2020
Wayne Carey has said that games decided by less than a kick are usually down to luck. Unfortunately Gray is a great clutch player - any one of his team mates would've missed.
Anyhoo............
Re: Post Game Postulations: AFL Rd 7: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Professer E - 07-19-2020
Like to know what Newnes is doing to continue getting games. Still isn't doing anywhere nearly enough for mind and the mistakes are something a player of his experience shouldn't be making.
Re: Post Game Postulations: AFL Rd 7: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - laj - 07-19-2020
We have North, Hawthorn, Freo and West Coast the next 4 games, not sure the order of the last 2. Would like to win 3 of them.
Re: Post Game Postulations: AFL Rd 7: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - LoveNavy - 07-19-2020
(07-19-2020, 06:46 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:We were not smart enough with Dixon, the Hoff and Marshall were just played as decoys and we fell for it everytime and left Jones one out to often. No one wanted to get in front of Dixon either, it was a no brainer Port would kick it to Dixon but I only saw Docherty once and young Walsh get in front of him. There was one piece of play where he ran down the ground and about three of our blokes jumped out the road and let him through.
I commented in game. Thankfully Jones started playing in front of Dixon. Might have been early in q3. Dixon was the difference imo. Both sides missed easy goals. I think on balance Dixon got the better of umpiring calls compared to Harry. The 50:50 one's didn't favour H, yet Dixon gifted overt blocks. Evidently blocking in the contest is a free kick. We were unlucky in that regard as I saw it.
Re: Post Game Postulations: AFL Rd 7: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Micky0 - 07-19-2020
So what were the frees against H for?
And noticed that Cripps gets a lot of in the back calls - is that something the opposition has worked out with him?
Not saying those calls aren’t right just curious