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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS - cookie2 - 05-19-2019
(05-19-2019, 10:44 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Bolton should be sacked. enough is enough.
Charlie Curnow, Lachie O'Brien and Paddy Dow to the 2s for extended periods....
Matt Kennedy in the 1s (disgraceful that LOB has been getting picked ahead of Matthew).
I watched LOB closely for a while today - he actually just stood there on one occasion and literally watched a GWS player with the ball just sweep past him without offering any form of a tackle. The guy literally just brushed past him and LOB just jogged away. I could not believe my eyes. This game should have been turned into a dogfight with us just scrapping to spoil their every move and disrupt their ball movement. We may have ended up with a much more respectable loss.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS - kruddler - 05-19-2019
There was one moment LOB tried to tackle a GWS lad (forget who) and physically couldn't get him off his feet. The lad just bent over and carried him on his back.
LOB simply doesn't have the size to compete effectively at AFL level and should not be put back until he does.
EDIT: That being said, LOB had more touches and more fantasy points than Cripps did today.....well so did 15 other players wearing a CFC monogram.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS - Macca37 - 05-19-2019
I watched Carlton players display 120 minutes equal parts of lack of ability and lack of application.
I suppose I've seen a worse display some time over my many years of watching Carlton, but what makes this so dreadful is that we are so far into a rebuild. My wife tells me that I'm a masochist for watching and I must agree with her.
I don't think I have ever felt so dejected.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS - Gointocarlton - 05-19-2019
Given I saw the first 10 or so mins of the game only, I just checked over the stats. One Carlton player, yes one, had more than 20 disposals (Newman 29). Thats a disgraceful performance. GWS had nearly 200 more disposals, I'm speechless.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-19-2019
(05-19-2019, 10:55 AM)kruddler link Wrote:DeBoer did do a number on him, but he is not the first to try and stop cripps, and he won't be the last. Regardless, Cripps has been able to find a way to dominate the game no matter who is trying to stop him.
So yes, Cripps did have a bad one, but it was not through lack of trying, just results wise.
I guess my point is that Debeor has done a number on everyone he has played on this season and its not like we didnt know what to expect?, there is never a plan B,C etc....he is the premier tagger
in the comp and Cripps is going to have more trouble than usual so why not help the poor bugger out a bit more. We cannot keep expecting him to carry the team and beat every tagger thrown his way, you have to have other plans. What is the point of recruiting Kennedy and Setterfield?....or having a midfield coach?
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS - northernblue - 05-19-2019
(05-19-2019, 10:38 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Very little positives to come out of the game, so i'll try my best to provide some.
1. The obvious one was Harry McKay. Big bloke who can take a grab, but good on the move too. Looks very comfortable running with ball in hand. Very good kick at goal, despite some yips he's experienced recently. Harry is back, but this version is 'the modern day dinosaur'!
2. How well GWS played together. How well they worked as a team. Why is this a positive? Because not so long ago, they were a rabble that were getting flogged week in week out and they had little hope apart from a talented list. Connect the dots and we see not all hope is lost. The difference is they have played 100+ games together and understand how eachother work. How many 'no look' handballs and kicks just happened to find a teammate today? Are they the luckiest team around or do they know how eachother play.
3. Cripps is probably leading the brownlow. Is definitely leading the coaches votes....and probably a whole lot of other votes as well. He was bound to have a bad one. Thankfully(?) it came against a side that we were no hope of winning against...at least not after the first quarter. Its best we don't 'waste' his good games.
4. We have played 31 players so far this year. Will be 32 when we bring in Kennedy next week. Should have been 34 with Pickett and Docherty unavailable for the year. We are finding out plenty about our list and plenty of kids are getting games in them. This will help long term. Players like Obrien and Stocker are not meant to be playing as much footy as they have been given the stage of their development, but it will help them long term in terms of what is required at AFL level. Short term pain, long term gain. The downside of going so deep into you list, and playing so many kids is what you see today. Too many indians, and not enough chiefs. A balance that will be restored when we get some more players back from injury.
So thats about all i got. :-\
I don’t think I’ve ever seen one team turn everything to ???? and the other have such a Midas touch as today.
That’s as much positive as I can find.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-19-2019
(05-19-2019, 10:57 AM)kruddler link Wrote:There was one moment LOB tried to tackle a GWS lad (forget who) and physically couldn't get him off his feet. The lad just bent over and carried him on his back.
LOB simply doesn't have the size to compete effectively at AFL level and should not be put back until he does.
EDIT: That being said, LOB had more touches and more fantasy points than Cripps did today.....well so did 15 other players wearing a CFC monogram.
LOB was a fantasy selection at pick 10, Fisher tackles fine and is built like a baby whippet...lets be brutally honest LOB doesnt like contesting or tackling and we are not good enough to afford
players who like to sit on the outside looking for a cheapie and lose interest when its their time to tackle.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS - shawny - 05-19-2019
(05-19-2019, 10:55 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:I watched LOB closely for a while today - he actually just stood there on one occasion and literally watched a GWS player with the ball just sweep past him without offering any form of a tackle. The guy literally just brushed past him and LOB just jogged away. I could not believe my eyes. This game should have been turned into a dogfight with us just scrapping to spoil their every move and disrupt their ball movement. We may have ended up with a much more respectable loss.
Cookie most of our kids just jog when they don’t have the ball.
SPS, Dow, Setterfield don’t have a sprint gear and are too one paced.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS - dodge - 05-19-2019
Yesterday I watched a low level suburban game - 101pts at half time and 209 at the end. Very boring, even with the right team winning. Today was shocking. Didn't even bother getting emotionally involved and just kept half en eye on it.
Today I watched the U9s and thought that there are some similarities. If you are 7 before 1 January, you can play under 9s. This means that there are some small skinny kids playing against some large 9yos. Often the small skinny's are timid, not reading play and lack confidence under a bit of pressure. The bigger kids, or ones that have played the extra year tend to dominate.
Unfortunately, we have a bunch of small skinny kids. Fisher was very fumbly early, which was indicative of what was to come. Late in the game LOB should have been in the thick of things, opted out and his effort to tackle would have scored 1 out of 1,000.
Voting in the Park Medal will be interesting - Garlett, Kerr and Kennedy were probably in the best.
While our defence has been decimated, our midfiled has to start standing up and being accountable.
Couldn't be the forwards, the ball wasn't there. Couldn't be the midfield as the ball wasn't with them. Couldn't be with the backline, as they kept giving it back. Leaves the bench!
Interestingly, I thought the commentary was quite bullish at the start about us, but then turned to what we might do (eg throw all experience in the middle and tell them they have to stem the bleeding). Not sure if we did any of it.
The result wasn't so unexpected - the manner and magnitude of it was.
Got a lot to do before the Saints next week.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS - Micky0 - 05-19-2019
Maybe they all had the flu?
I say that tongue in cheek, however our no. 2 wears his heart on his sleeve and gives his everything, JSOS, was as inept and ineffectual as all the others.