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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 4: Carlton vs. Gold Coast - flyboy77 - 04-14-2019
ps Gibbons is a midfielder, not a small forward.
Why not play him in a position he knows how to play?
BB has the too cute bug too me thinks.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 4: Carlton vs. Gold Coast - flyboy77 - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 07:51 AM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:Fair dinkum. All you guys and girls saying we should stay fat with Bolton are like frogs unable to jump out of a pot being slowly heated to boiling point.
So apparently the logic is, sacking coaches hasn't served us well in the past 20 years so we should stop doing that. You're all idiots as far as I'm concerned. You know, if you toss a coin 99 times and it comes up heads every time there's still a 50% chance the next toss will turn up tails.
I've held off posting this season thinking I might go off half-cocked. Well, I'm out. A few years ago I said we should just fold as a going concern - maybe just a little tongue in cheek. In retrospect it would have been a genius move worthy of the Crows recruiting department as then we could forever claim to be the greatest club of all time. Now, we are irrelevant. An endless source of cheap jokes for Mick Molloy.
Ratten had won 11 the season he got rolled IIRC?
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 4: Carlton vs. Gold Coast - Professer E - 04-14-2019
I don't care if Setterfield gets rubbed out, he's useless anyway. Kennedy or JSOS can do his role, which is presumably some on ball role because I'll be buggered what he was doing today. At least JSOS plays like he gives a stuff.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 4: Carlton vs. Gold Coast - PaulP - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 07:51 AM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:Fair dinkum. All you guys and girls saying we should stay fat with Bolton are like frogs unable to jump out of a pot being slowly heated to boiling point.
So apparently the logic is, sacking coaches hasn't served us well in the past 20 years so we should stop doing that. You're all idiots as far as I'm concerned. You know, if you toss a coin 99 times and it comes up heads every time there's still a 50% chance the next toss will turn up tails.
I've held off posting this season thinking I might go off half-cocked. Well, I'm out. A few years ago I said we should just fold as a going concern - maybe just a little tongue in cheek. In retrospect it would have been a genius move worthy of the Crows recruiting department as then we could forever claim to be the greatest club of all time. Now, we are irrelevant. An endless source of cheap jokes for Mick Molloy.
The coach isn't the problem. Modern football is more structured, more systematic, and more complex than it's ever been. You can't blame the coach for shocking turnovers, clangers, players that can't kick straight etc.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 4: Carlton vs. Gold Coast - flyboy77 - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 07:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The coach isn't the problem. Modern football is more structured, more systematic, and more complex than it's ever been. You can't blame the coach for shocking turnovers, clangers, players that can't kick straight etc.
Yes and it's the coach's f'n role to get the players using such a system WITH skill....
It's 100% the coach's cop, sorry Paul.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 4: Carlton vs. Gold Coast - cookie2 - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 07:50 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Not unless a miracle occurs. Losing to a Qld team has lost our coaches their jobs before. So may this. It simply isn't good enough.
Yep - he needs to get in touch with Lazarus asap.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 4: Carlton vs. Gold Coast - Professer E - 04-14-2019
What system do we employ to move the ball into scoring positions? Chaos theory? Brownian motion?
Because there sure ain't any system or plan.... And that's a coaching issue.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 4: Carlton vs. Gold Coast - laj - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 07:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The coach isn't the problem. Modern football is more structured, more systematic, and more complex than it's ever been. You can't blame the coach for shocking turnovers, clangers, players that can't kick straight etc.
Coach is a massive problem. That's 3 wins from 36 and 0-4 4th year in. Sorry, the buck stops right there. We know how to pick $hit coaches. We got one right since Parko and sacked him.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 4: Carlton vs. Gold Coast - LP - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 07:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The coach isn't the problem. Modern football is more structured, more systematic, and more complex than it's ever been. You can't blame the coach for shocking turnovers, clangers, players that can't kick straight etc.
Agree, it's not the coach when it's the old blokes who should be better, the ones setting the example under pressure, yet they are the ones making the bulk of the clangers! This week Ed, Plowman, Simmo, etc., etc., shocking!
Our club won't/can't trade or retire them all, so the head coach will ultimately pay the price and the old blokes will survive.
But answer this question;
Which coaches have been in place developing those skills right through this horrible era?
That would be my first move!
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 4: Carlton vs. Gold Coast - PaulP - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 07:59 AM)laj link Wrote:Coach is a massive problem. That's 3 wins from 36 and 0-4 4th year in. Sorry, the buck stops right there. We know how to pick $hit coaches. We got one right since Parko and sacked him.
Yes, but the "we" that picks coaches has been different over the last 20 years. The importance of the senior coach is over stated by many on here, who fall into simplistic, old school thinking. But don't take my word for it :
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/time-to-cap-the-wages-of-senior-afl-coaches-leigh-matthews-20150530-ghd3l9.html