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Re: If Not BB, Who? - laj - 04-07-2019
(04-06-2019, 12:04 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Yep. Sacking coaches achieves nothing but masking problems. New coach comes in, everyone gets a shot in the arm, things improve temporarily until it gets hard and reality hits, and that's all she wrote. Then we start sacking players again until the new coach loses the group and everyone calls it a giant waste of their time and wants to leave.
Where have I heard this story again???
When you've won 3 from 35, 15 from 69, you don't leave things the same. Unless of course, you like losing.
We were in the finals 2 years after sacking Pagan, after being close the first year. Hinkley turned Port around immediately after Primus, miserably failed, Beveridge won a flag 2 years after McCartney struggled badly.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - laj - 04-07-2019
(04-07-2019, 12:23 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:For all his faults and short comings, I’d much rather have Bolton speaking on behalf of my club than the perpetual whinger Hardwick. How dumb is he!! Complain about treatment to your pinup boy when you’re winning, not when you lose because you look like a mega sook. ‘Protect the playmakers!’ Great Dimma, just include ALL playmakers like Danger, Cripps, Fyffe, Sloane etc not just Mr Precious who can’t handle a strong tag!! Bolton never uses those excuses (eg yesterday’s presser and the Jones question). He has every right to complain especially about the Cripps treatment, but he doesn’t. He throws the onus back on the players. Pi55 off Dimma, you are nothing more than a front runner coach who had a dream run and can’t handle it when the temperature is turned up in the kitchen!!!
Give me a whinger who wins.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - cookie2 - 04-07-2019
Wonder what Wallsy's report card on BB is saying? If Wallsy is the authority he is supposed to be, I would expect some real insights to be fed to both BB and upwards to the board.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - WASurfer - 04-07-2019
Townsend...agree his post-match press conferences are better than Hardwick's and not looking for excuses...but the fact remains that 90% of the them are after a loss and most of us are a bit over hearing the same stuff with just different cliches. I'm concerned at what looks like the stalled development of our kids. Is it the coaching...impossible to say from the outside? But we simply have far too many top end draft pick players to NOT be showing much in the way of improvements. There's glimpses but yesterday was just a repeat of the first two rounds....one or maybe two competitive quarters and then we go missing for big periods and simple skill errors absolutely kill us time and again. Opposition teams just kill us when we haven't got the ball and when we do get it, it's heart in the mouth stuff with the lack of elite ball users in our squad.
All we've heard for the last season and a bit is the need to take the pressure of Patrick Cripps....if not for him in the first three rounds this year, the losing margins would've been double, if not more. He simply cannot do any more on his own and unless someone in the midfield steps up, it's impossible to see where a win comes from.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - madbluboy - 04-07-2019
Walls is a dinosaur and has no business being there. We as sacked him 30 years ago FFS.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - PaulP - 04-07-2019
(04-07-2019, 04:44 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Walls is a dinosaur and has no business being there. We as sacked him 30 years ago FFS.
Yes, sacked after a GF (86), a flag (87), and a 3rd placing (88). LOL. If only...........
Re: If Not BB, Who? - capcom - 04-07-2019
(04-07-2019, 04:44 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Walls is a dinosaur and has no business being there. We as sacked him 30 years ago FFS.
Brilliant player and though he was the beneficiary of form fours in 86, still a damned good coach. Can't believe that comment to be honest. Agree with Paul 100%.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - PaulP - 04-07-2019
To be fair though, he hasn't been in the AFL/VFL system for decades. If you get a chance, watch the Open Mike with him on Youtube. Very honest, candid, and doesn't make excuses.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-07-2019
(04-07-2019, 01:55 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Are you basing this on the latest presser, after the Swans game ? If so, what I heard was very different to what you write.
Paul..he went the same innerdrive, belief, intensity, driven dribble then said the players will/want to train better on Tuesday and Thursday and will be steely
in their resolve to get a result.
Might sound crazy but shouldnt that be the case every week win lose or draw...I'm cliched out....
Re: If Not BB, Who? - PaulP - 04-07-2019
(04-07-2019, 07:20 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Paul..he went the same innerdrive, belief, intensity, driven dribble then said the players will/want to train better on Tuesday and Thursday and will be steely
in their resolve to get a result.
Might sound crazy but shouldnt that be the case every week win lose or draw...I'm cliched out....
Wow, I heard a lot more than that.