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Re: AFLW 2019 List Changes - kruddler - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 08:56 AM)LP link Wrote:Like the way Kreuzer has never been AA, all voted by the media!
It's a joke measure!
Regardless, your comments are way off.
Stevens is no equivalent to Davey.
Stevens was not plastered across all the collingwood marketing.
Stevens was not chosen by her club/peers as most worthy of Captain.
Stevens was not even chosen to be in the leadership group.
Re: AFLW 2019 List Changes - LP - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 09:09 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Regardless, your comments are way off.
Stevens is no equivalent to Davey.
Stevens was not plastered across all the collingwood marketing.
Stevens was not chosen by her club/peers as most worthy of Captain.
Stevens was not even chosen to be in the leadership group.
We don't know, we cannot know, Stevens won the B&F and left, just like Davey!
The rules encourage this sort of tit-for-tat behaviour, we did it, they'll do it too!
Re: AFLW 2019 List Changes - No1inParticular - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 08:45 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Stevens was not a match winner, she was a defender who played her role.
She won the B+F by 4 votes to Alicia Eva, she is a matchwinner.
You say "without question" their marquee player, I challenge that remark.
Personally, i am more than happy to have Stevens playing for us. But if i had a choice of Collingwood players, she's just scrape into my top 5 i reckon.
Your logic suggests that whoever wins the B+F is without question the best player in the side. I challenge that logic.
I'll back LP here.
Stevens was crucial to the Pies in 2017.
They identified her ability & footy smart before the draft.
They were delighted to get her in the draft at their first pick, considering they thought others would snap her up.
A player they could build a defence around.
She left a big hole.
Re: AFLW 2019 List Changes - No1inParticular - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 09:09 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Regardless, your comments are way off.
Stevens is no equivalent to Davey.
Stevens was not plastered across all the collingwood marketing.
Stevens was not chosen by her club/peers as most worthy of Captain.
Stevens was not even chosen to be in the leadership group.
Within the clubs 4 walls she was rated highly...
You don't need to be named captain to be a leader. She was the on-field leader in defence.
Re: AFLW 2019 List Changes - kruddler - 04-15-2019
(04-14-2019, 10:55 PM)No1inParticular link Wrote:Within the clubs 4 walls she was rated highly...
You don't need to be named captain to be a leader. She was the on-field leader in defence.
...and thats fine. However highly she was rated, it was behind at least 3 others when it came to leadership as she wasn't in their leadership group.
Again, this isn't actually about her ability on the field. Its about how much time/effort the club put into her off it.
Example, Darcy Vescio,club leading goal kicker 2 years in a row, mark of the year winner, goal of the year winner, marquee player, plastered all over our marketing campaigns and website, all australian, works for the club.
If she left, or got poached, the club would be filthy. She agreed to all of that, with comes with extra $'s and a continued relationship with the club.
Alternatively, if someone poached say Gab Pound (like Gold coast are attempting) who has had a better season than Vescio, finished higher in the B+F, made the AA side is crucial to our rock solid defense, and hasn't missed a game in 3 years.
If she left....fair play. Same as Nic Stevens.
Why are North Melbourne people still $hitty at Leigh Colbert? Because he was their best player when he left for the cats? Or because there was some understanding, given he accepted the captaincy position, that there would be some loyalty to the club....who in turn used his image to promote the club.
Davey going hurts on-field. As would Pound, Harrington, Prespakis and a multitude of others. But unlike those others, Davey has accepted responsibility as being the face of the club.....which she has turned her back on. Thats on her.
Re: AFLW 2019 List Changes - Dominator_7 - 04-15-2019
The Stevens/Davey scenario may have some similarities, but the players are much different.
Davey is streets ahead of Stevens.
She is a ‘big name’ player in the AFLW, whereas as good as Stevens was at Collingwood, she never had the cachet Davey does.
Captain, All Australian, 2 x B&F winner,
Face of AFLW at Carlton.
Voted best captain in the league this year..
At 25, coming into the peak of her career.
Genuine match winner.
We should play hard ball and expect the Filth to pay BIG. The sneaky way Bri has gone about this, approaching our biggest AFLW rival herself behind the clubs back, should make the Club even more determined to get the best deal for us and not be so accommodating to the player herself.
Re: AFLW 2019 List Changes - Navy Maven - 04-16-2019
So the AFL have clarified that a re-signed player can be traded if they and their club agree to the trade. No1inParticular, any chance of a Captain swap?
Re: AFLW 2019 List Changes - kruddler - 04-16-2019
(04-16-2019, 08:06 AM)Navy Maven link Wrote:So the AFL have clarified that a re-signed player can be traded if they and their club agree to the trade. No1inParticular, any chance of a Captain swap?
I said that earlier, pick 1 and Steph, make it happen!
Re: AFLW 2019 List Changes - Dominator_7 - 04-16-2019
Come home Steph!!
Re: AFLW 2019 List Changes - kruddler - 04-19-2019
There is a link to a video on YouTube that was just posted, but the link is broken.
The video is entitled "21 locked in for 2020",and has a picture of halford with a whiteboard behind him.
Link directs to Carltonfc page, but is not live.
I suspect it will be live shortly.
We've had 5 delistinga so far, 21 signings means we have 4 unknowns.
1 of which will be bri Davey wanting out.
1 might be gab pound to gold Coast *fingers crossed its not*
2 more...
Katie loynes retirement?
Tilly wanting to follow bri??