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Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Professer E - 08-19-2018
Beveridge ran off at the mouth a bit if you asked me. If that wasn't a dive it was a very good imitation of one.
Total midfield dominance to win by three goals.... Explain that one Luke.
And JJ's haircut should be banned, it's just awful.
Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - LP - 08-19-2018
Who would have thunk it, an AFL coach makes comments based on his vested interests! :
Next thing you know they'll be putting them on a rules sub-committee! :o
This is clearly where the AFL, which wants to be so professional on world sport in effect becoming one of the big boys, remains decidedly suburban!
When BB eventually gets sick of his team being bent over, you'll see a change in the way he responds to this sort of rubbish, because it has a very real effect. Bont is a good boy, Bont doesn't do nuffin, Bont got picked on, Bont is being dissed!, etc., etc., etc..
Bont will get a golden run from the umpires for the next half dozen outings, if there were so many left, and fans will complain that the stars get a free lunch! Commentators will call for an end to Lamb, Thomas or Mullett style tactics and Carlton will get crucified!
Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - DJC - 08-19-2018
(08-19-2018, 11:07 AM)dodge link Wrote:There is no way that Bont should have got a free kick. The umpire guessed and gave Jong a 50. That killed the slim chance that we had.
Bontompelli should be fined for staging and for the contact to Lamb’s face that initiated the incident. It won’t happen though and, even if it did, the score will stand >
Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Micky0 - 08-19-2018
It was extremely frustrating to see that Bont overreaction and that goal that came from it and then it was all over.
I love the Bont tho but felt for Lamb then.
Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - cookie2 - 08-19-2018
(08-19-2018, 10:13 PM)DJC link Wrote:Bontompelli should be fined for staging and for the contact to Lamb’s face that initiated the incident. It won’t happen though and, even if it did, the score will stand >
As so often happens, the perp gets away scot-free and the retaliator cops it, especially if the perp is a deity.
Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Peter Brady - 08-19-2018
(08-19-2018, 10:59 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:As so often happens, the perp gets away scot-free and the retaliator cops it, especially if the perp is a deity.
This is Jed Lamb we're talking about.
He was probably up to some shenanigans well before the incident. ;D
Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - ElCapitan - 08-20-2018
I think if Kerridge was to come in he should be played at half forward. He tackles and gets the football and by god we need anyone who can hold the ball in the forward line.
Besides getting murdered out of the middle, the Dogs got it out of our forward 50 far too easily. Hes also a decent shot for goal.
And don't let anyone tell you umpiring doesn't influence results. Aside from the the Bontempelli fiasco, it would be nice if there was some consistency with the holding the ball or incorrect disposal decisions. At critical times when we had momentum we got dudded on a few obvious ones and the Bulldogs got goals at the other end.
Dow's free when he put us in front was the only crucial one that went our way all day.
Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Gointocarlton - 08-20-2018
(08-20-2018, 12:11 AM)ElCapitan link Wrote:I think if Kerridge was to come in he should be played at half forward. He tackles and gets the football and by god we need anyone who can hold the ball in the forward line.For me it was the defensive "handovers" that we screwed up on the weekend. They kicked a few goals from blokes on their own in the F50 due to sloppy defence and communication.
Besides getting murdered out of the middle, the Dogs got it out of our forward 50 far too easily. Hes also a decent shot for goal.
And don't let anyone tell you umpiring doesn't influence results. Aside from the the Bontempelli fiasco, it would be nice if there was some consistency with the holding the ball or incorrect disposal decisions. At critical times when we had momentum we got dudded on a few obvious ones and the Bulldogs got goals at the other end.
Dow's free when he put us in front was the only crucial one that went our way all day.
Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - cookie2 - 08-20-2018
(08-20-2018, 12:16 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:For me it was the defensive "handovers" that we screwed up on the weekend. They kicked a few goals from blokes on their own in the F50 due to sloppy defence and communication.
Yes, I get the strong impression that we still haven't got ourselves properly organised down back. Doesn't help that our midfield is so poor resulting in the defence too often being under seige.
Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - LP - 08-20-2018
(08-20-2018, 01:53 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Yes, I get the strong impression that we still haven't got ourselves properly organised down back. Doesn't help that our midfield is so poor resulting in the defence too often being under seige.
Their mids tore us a new one it was obvious on the day, after that it became more about what they do with the ball than what we do! We are just lucky despite all the ball they won they looked disorganized and disheveled.
I think Beveridge is a coach who had a formulaic approach that worked almost by surprise in the first season and a bit. Now that it's been picked apart at the highest level by the better teams it's only likely to work erratically against weaker opponents. if our mids had provided more run and pressure we might well have won, because our defence did well forcing the Bulldogs to become indecisive for almost 3-1/2 quarters.