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Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - JonHenry - 08-05-2018
(08-05-2018, 06:53 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I don't understand how we can ask for one after the CEO came out and categorically stated we will not ask. I look forward to hearing him explain his way out of that.
He should be sacked for saying but that’s a whole other issue.
Whether he said it or not, the AFL can’t keep this facade up. There is nothing even about the competition and in the last 6-8 years they have made it less so.
Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - Gointocarlton - 08-05-2018
(08-05-2018, 07:07 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:He should be sacked for saying but that’s a whole other issue.Can the AFL go to Carlton and hand over a PP over without us asking?
Whether he said it or not, the AFL can’t keep this facade up. There is nothing even about the competition and in the last 6-8 years they have made it less so.
Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-05-2018
(08-05-2018, 07:03 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Their running power was on display for all to see today. Kelly is jet, 3, 8 and 2 don't go to bad either.
Yep...we looked really slow, no run from the backline and Whitfield really carved us up breaking the lines....that kid can really play and his disposal on the run is some of the best I have seen.
Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - LP - 08-05-2018
We won't get a PP even if we ask, we did this to ourselves deliberately.
GC are the opposite, they have a core of experienced players and are losing many of their best young players, yet they are as bad if not worse than us. They'll get a PP for sure which will devalue our later picks.
The system makes it almost impossible to get off the bottom.
Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 08-05-2018
(08-05-2018, 07:12 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Yep...we looked really slow, no run from the backline and Whitfield really carved us up breaking the lines....that kid can really play and his disposal on the run is some of the best I have seen.
Dead set jet.
Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - LoveNavy - 08-05-2018
Questions
1. If GC ask or receive a pp, do we automatically get one?
2. Would we have an AFL standard list if us/GC combined?
3. How does 7 season ending injuries compare to other years/teams?
Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - JonHenry - 08-05-2018
(08-05-2018, 07:08 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Can the AFL go to Carlton and hand over a PP over without us asking?
We will be told to apply I am certain of that.
I hope we end up with 1 & 9 and our two second rounders.
I would then trade pick 1 and a second rounder for multiple first round picks.
We have 12 players we need to move on and we need some serious quality.
Signing Murphy was a major mistake. We need competitive 24-26 year olds not outside players on a retirement plan.
Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 08-05-2018
(08-05-2018, 07:02 AM)Baggers link Wrote:As has been the past 3. Do you really trust our blokes to get it right? Most of the cr@p traded in over the past 3 years has been a big fail. But wonderful favours to other clubs.
Yes, list shallowness and injuries contribute but the spiritless effort from the start (there have been many this year, actually) suggests bigger problems in other areas.
I think the plan was that Mullet, O'Shea etc. were meant to be NB players more than anything, providing depth where required, helping the kids, bit of experience etc. SOS freely admitted in the recent Caro interview that not every trade / draft recruit works out. I don't think they were ever meant to play this much senior footy.
The best laid plans and all that..........
Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - LoveNavy - 08-05-2018
(08-05-2018, 07:14 AM)LP link Wrote:We won't get a PP even if we ask, we did this to ourselves deliberately.
GC are the opposite, they have a core of experienced players and are losing many of their best young players, yet they are as bad if not worse than us. They'll get a PP for sure which will devalue our later picks.
The system makes it almost impossible to get off the bottom.
This draft also looking to have a lot of top talent from interstate / academies. Can't see that helping us either. Even in the unlikely event of getting pp...
Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - blue4life - 08-05-2018
(08-05-2018, 07:02 AM)Baggers link Wrote:As has been the past 3. Do you really trust our blokes to get it right? Most of the cr@p traded in over the past 3 years has been a big fail. But wonderful favours to other clubs.
Yes, list shallowness and injuries contribute but the spiritless effort from the start (there have been many this year, actually) suggests bigger problems in other areas.
I've been happy with our recruiting since 2015 but we were coming from miles back due to our abysmal record in the decade prior.
There's no point dwelling on it, but how Hughes lasted 10 years at the club is totally mystifying.
There's plenty to like about our current crop of young players but they need time and the AFL is a very unforgiving environment.
Some of them will fall away but the strong will survive.