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Re: 2019 - What do you expect from the club? - Raydan - 07-12-2018
(07-12-2018, 04:45 AM)Inboltswetrust link Wrote:What a load of poppycock! Have a look at other sides injury lists- including GWS. They are worse than ours, and with better players out. I cannot believe you are mentioning that a fit Casboult will make us better. Kerridge a 'B' grader? You are kidding me. Can i please smoke whatever you are on please mate?
There are other sides that have injuries, granted but sometimes it's not what is out, it's what is left. GWS has quality left, but again this is a side that has played in the last 2 prelim finals and where do they sit now? 10th and looking to miss finals, but I'm sure their injuries had no effect :
Where as we finished bottom 3 last year and have had the most games missed through injury of any club, so to explain this to you, we were already on the bottom and have lost a lot of players to injury who would have helped, they were a top 4 side who have now dropped out of the finals, so I'm afraid you're the one smoking stuff.
Casboult - Who a better forward Levi or Kruezer? So yes he would have made the side better and Kerridge, I believe if you read the post again it say at his best he is a B grader but he is a hard body around the ball an area where we deficient in.
I also note that you made no mention of losing an entire backline to injury, but never let facts get in the way of your argument.
Re: 2019 - What do you expect from the club? - Hobieone - 07-12-2018
Great post Raydan..
Totally agree with you
Re: 2019 - What do you expect from the club? - northernblue - 07-12-2018
(07-12-2018, 04:11 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Fair post as per usual Raydan.
Re: 2019 - What do you expect from the club? - PaulP - 07-12-2018
(07-12-2018, 04:45 AM)Inboltswetrust link Wrote:What a load of poppycock! Have a look at other sides injury lists- including GWS. They are worse than ours, and with better players out. I cannot believe you are mentioning that a fit Casboult will make us better. Kerridge a 'B' grader? You are kidding me. Can i please smoke whatever you are on please mate?
No doubt GWS have been hit hard with injuries, and their form has suffered, but suffering is relative. Even with those injuries, they are still able to field a core group of mids and backs, who are a) experienced, b) very talented, and c) have played a few seasons together. What they have left on the park is still among the competition's best.
No comparison IMO.
Re: 2019 - What do you expect from the club? - LP - 07-12-2018
Hard to determine what to expect, we are so variable and therefore hard to predict.
So expect in regard to what I would like, or what I expect us to do are very different things.
What I would like;
History, around the club and players, The Hyphen, Fev, Armfield
Aggressive Behaviour, in the Media, On Field and Coaching
Steely Resolve, I'll take it wherever and whenever we can find it!
Attitude, we own it, make it look that way!
What I wouldn't like;
Conciliation
Appeasement
Excuses
Blame
Spin
Submission
Surrender
If we are going down, let's go down fighting, and as Ted would say, it's time to stick it up em!
Re: 2019 - What do you expect from the club? - Jack Burton - 07-12-2018
I agree with Raydan's post above, we need to wait and see what happens when we have close to our best team on the park at the same time
Re: 2019 - What do you expect from the club? - kruddler - 07-12-2018
(07-11-2018, 11:15 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Flawed logic.
We have one win a percentage of 62?, we clearly have to make changes.
Perhaps our problem was we made TOO MANY changes previously?
Overall, you want to have the largest amount of talent, spread even across all ages - senior players and kids.
We have plenty of talented kids, but close to SFA in senior talent.
You pot Murphy as much as anyone. Taking out Simmo and Daisy would leave Murphy, an often injured Kreuzer and Ed Curnow as senior players in the side. Our % would drop further with them out of it.
Re: 2019 - What do you expect from the club? - Robblues - 07-12-2018
(07-12-2018, 05:00 AM)Raydan link Wrote:There are other sides that have injuries, granted but sometimes it's not what is out, it's what is left. GWS has quality left, but again this is a side that has played in the last 2 prelim finals and where do they sit now? 10th and looking to miss finals, but I'm sure their injuries had no effect :Great Posts Rayden , the latter is the key , losing an entire backline to injury , that changes the ability to be more offensive focused all of a sudden we change to a new game plan with no players capable to impliment it. Other sides all have injury issues , but our lack of depth & experience its so hard cover. Yes we all get frustrated by the lack of performance and wins. But break it down we really rely on too few players to gain a win
Where as we finished bottom 3 last year and have had the most games missed through injury of any club, so to explain this to you, we were already on the bottom and have lost a lot of players to injury who would have helped, they were a top 4 side who have now dropped out of the finals, so I'm afraid you're the one smoking stuff.
Casboult - Who a better forward Levi or Kruezer? So yes he would have made the side better and Kerridge, I believe if you read the post again it say at his best he is a B grader but he is a hard body around the ball an area where we deficient in.
I also note that you made no mention of losing an entire backline to injury, but never let facts get in the way of your argument.
Re: 2019 - What do you expect from the club? - deags - 07-12-2018
I agree with a lot of what Raydan says, and I guess we hope that for the long term it is true.
The one thing that sticks in my craw though, is you can't deny the lack of effort on multiple occasions this year. And whatever may or may not have happened at the selection table, and no matter what occurred pre match with injuries last weekend, there was a lack of effort from the vast majority of our players and that is unacceptable.
Re: 2019 - What do you expect from the club? - cookie2 - 07-12-2018
(07-12-2018, 10:40 PM)deags link Wrote:I agree with a lot of what Raydan says, and I guess we hope that for the long term it is true.
The one thing that sticks in my craw though, is you can't deny the lack of effort on multiple occasions this year. And whatever may or may not have happened at the selection table, and no matter what occurred pre match with injuries last weekend, there was a lack of effort from the vast majority of our players and that is unacceptable.
I am concerned that this is the prime symptom of the players being confused and frustrated with the game plan and their individual roles within it.