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Re: 2018 VFL Rd 11: Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 06-19-2018
(06-18-2018, 11:52 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Similarly, I'm not sure about it, but what I do see is that we could potentially take better care of our players which comes from an overall duty of care to your employees.
We have no idea of the cause of this recent injury, it could easily have been a clip from some opponents boot in traffic or congestion and is unrelated to his medical history!
It's easy to blame the medicos, but the bigger question is ignoring one game on Franklin should he have even been picked up by our club?
From the perspective of our youth I think it was worth the risk, but it did have some risk given his injury history.
From an overall club perspective it's probably been a bust. He's provided Carlton with about as much as TBird gave GWS!
Re: 2018 VFL Rd 11: Carlton vs Richmond - northernblue - 06-19-2018
(06-19-2018, 12:09 AM)LP link Wrote:We have no idea of the cause of this recent injury, it could easily have been a clip from some opponents boot in traffic or congestion and is unrelated to his medical history!
It's easy to blame the medicos, but the bigger question is ignoring one game on Franklin should he have even been picked up by our club?
Neither Thry or myself are blaming the medicos, however multiple players have played this year when clearly hampered by injury, and several have come back after a break and had a reoccurrence of the same injury.
Clearly this needs to be investigated.
As for ASOS, he has played well when on the park, held opponents, supported teammates and supposedly mentors well, it’s a pity for the injuries.
Re: 2018 VFL Rd 11: Carlton vs Richmond - Thryleon - 06-19-2018
Exactly. I wasn't a fan of his acquisition when we got him, but was converted by his performances.
My only question is not about blame but uncovering what we can do to improve and prevent these things in future.
Re: 2018 VFL Rd 11: Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 06-19-2018
It's amazing how durable some success will make a player!
We were closer last season, but from public comments this season it seems was all part of the plan! Why didn't they just tell me that up front?
Also, what is the media rallying against, and why? Are they trying to bully the AFL and Carlton in a certain direction, will Carlton blink?
Re: 2018 VFL Rd 11: Carlton vs Richmond - northernblue - 06-19-2018
(06-19-2018, 02:13 AM)LP link Wrote:We were closer last season, but from public comments this season it seems was all part of the plan! Why didn't they just tell me that up front?
Also, what is the media rallying against, and why? Are they trying to bully the AFL and Carlton in a certain direction, will Carlton blink?
What are you trying to say now ?
Did you really think that Doc missing every game of 2018, Rowe coming back from a knee and Gibbs being traded for draft picks was going to make us a better team in 2018 v 2017 ? ????????????????????????
Re: 2018 VFL Rd 11: Carlton vs Richmond - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-19-2018
ACOS was a rookie pick so the recruiting aspect is minor....he was good when he played but a decision will need to be made on him and Sam Rowe.....Sam might get another season and I reckon OShea will too....
Re: 2018 VFL Rd 11: Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 06-19-2018
(06-19-2018, 02:44 AM)northernblue link Wrote:What are you trying to say now ?
Did you really think that Doc missing every game of 2018, Rowe coming back from a knee and Gibbs being traded for draft picks was going to make us a better team in 2018 v 2017 ? ????????????????????????
The recent public uttering from senior club officials (SOS, McKay, Judd, BB and now The Judge)have all publicly pegged this as the predicted toughest year of the rebuild, even excluding the Docherty injury and Gibbs trade. But they didn't do so pro-actively, before teh season, they waited for the sh1t to hit he fan and then told us retro-actively!
Yet it was hope and an exciting new brand they peddled prior to the season!
If they had just come out and stated this year was expected to be tough, and we were consolidating on the past, most fans would have accepted that!
I realise not everyone believed them, especially the older heads, but it hurts the young supporters more than anything to be offered chocolates only to get boiled lollies! That sort of mean spirited spin hurts the club long term, and I think it tells you who and what they really care about!
It makes them look like car-salesmen! Trust us, we lied to you in the past but we are not lying now!
Re: 2018 VFL Rd 11: Carlton vs Richmond - Thryleon - 06-19-2018
LP with all due respect the club never spruiked we'd be good.
Some optimistic supporters allowed themselves to think like we were in a better position than we were and even the more realistic from our supporters didn't realise it would be this bad.
Things could have been very different but we've had some rotten luck which has guaranteed this outcome for this year.
When paddy Dow lined up in the middle in round one and didn't stamp himself as way ahead of schedule it was a bit of a tell.
Re: 2018 VFL Rd 11: Carlton vs Richmond - Baggers - 06-19-2018
Actually, I think the Spotted One (LP) is right in one respect re the dishonesty of the club. For the club to be saying now that they fully expected this to be the most difficult period of the rebuild is absolute bullsh1te. We were seduced into believing a more offensive 'layer' had been added at the beginning of the year, building expectations. That turned out to be an unmitigated disaster. And then we quickly retreated to our defensive game to steady the ship... then came the injuries to an already brittle side.
Looks to me like our club is making it up as they go along.
Re: 2018 VFL Rd 11: Carlton vs Richmond - northernblue - 06-19-2018
Sorry Baggers and LP, I’m firmly with Thry on this.
Do you think the club is going to come out preseason and say “No hope this year, save your membership cash for 2020” ????????
If we had minimal injuries this year like the tiggers last, we could’ve been sitting here now talking about scrapping around the fringe of the 8... (EVERYTHING going right)
Instead we’ve had injuries to two guys from 1/4 time in round one and gone downhill from there, then there’s some of the mystifying selections that went on...