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Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - LP - 05-05-2018
For the people ranting on about our MC and our talls balance!
Adelaide had 10 players over 190cm, Carlton only had 9!
If you think our having too many talls is the cause you missed the point entirely! Our problem is the way our talls want to play, like rovers and get cheap kicks out the back, or jumping from the back of packs.
While their talls take front position, attack the footy, mark it or bring the ball to ground to the advantage of their utilities!
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - Gointocarlton - 05-05-2018
(05-05-2018, 02:41 PM)LP link Wrote:For the people ranting on about our MC and our talls balance!Very true, you rarely see our blokes take front position.
Adelaide had 10 players over 190cm, Carlton only had 9!
If you think our having too many talls is the cause you missed the point entirely! Our problem is the way our talls want to play, like rovers and get cheap kicks out the back, or jumping from the back of packs.
While their talls take front position, attack the footy, mark it or bring the ball to ground to the advantage of their utilities!
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - Lods - 05-05-2018
Half an Adelaide side beat half a Carlton side at home
Their depth covered their injuries better than ours.
They're challenging, we're building
They controlled most of the game, but we held our own at times and even had periods where we were on top.
50+ points was about the expected margin
On to next week.
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - Professer E - 05-05-2018
Jones is a better match up for the bumber's great white hope... Weitering to replace Plowman (corkie) or OShea ( NBG).
Kerr to replace Levi.
If we can beat Bellchambers we are a chance, their midfield is soft as shyte.
If Kennedy ain't fit drop him too.
Polson in as a run with.
I'd consider Lamb, because he's expendable, for one job... Get inside Gobhards head and drive him nuts.
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - kruddler - 05-05-2018
(05-05-2018, 02:41 PM)LP link Wrote:For the people ranting on about our MC and our talls balance!
Adelaide had 10 players over 190cm, Carlton only had 9!
If you think our having too many talls is the cause you missed the point entirely! Our problem is the way our talls want to play, like rovers and get cheap kicks out the back, or jumping from the back of packs.
While their talls take front position, attack the footy, mark it or bring the ball to ground to the advantage of their utilities!
And how many did each have over 195cm?
I reckon we had 5 who were 199 or bigger (Casboult, McKay, Phillips, Kreuzer, Jones)
...but having said that, those players are probably all more agile than your standard bloke of that size.
Whereas someone like Weitering, moves like Harry Madden.
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - cookie2 - 05-05-2018
(05-05-2018, 10:26 PM)Lods link Wrote:Half an Adelaide side beat half a Carlton side at home
Their depth covered their injuries better than ours.
They're challenging, we're building
They controlled most of the game, but we held our own at times and even had periods where we were on top.
50+ points was about the expected margin
On to next week.
Yep, that's about the size of it.
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - Lods - 05-05-2018
Dale Thomas 26 disposals 10 marks 5 tackles...the old fella is going alright and playing his part
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - madbluboy - 05-05-2018
As long as Simpson is our play maker down back we won't win a game.
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - LP - 05-06-2018
(05-05-2018, 10:33 PM)kruddler link Wrote:And how many did each have over 195cm?
I reckon we had 5 who were 199 or bigger (Casboult, McKay, Phillips, Kreuzer, Jones)
...but having said that, those players are probably all more agile than your standard bloke of that size.
Whereas someone like Weitering, moves like Harry Madden.
That's a rubbish statement.
Yesterday I watched NBs at Frankston. Two players Weitering and JGM wanted the last defender role. It was basically a battle between them in the first half who could set themselves up in that role. But in reality, when JGM got his opportunity he was no good at getting to the contests, he was nearly always late, failed to read the play or was beaten. Weitering in the same role was basically dominant, as you would want a player of that calibre to be!
Nobody would make a claim JGM is slower than Weitering, or slower than any of the above. Worrying about speed is way way too simplistic, it's not just about speed, it's about decision making, reading the play and being committed.
Further, most of yesterday Frankston tried it on with a small player to leverage a pace or agility difference, it backfired because Weitering won out comfortably. He looks slow because he is a lopes along Rhys-Jones style, but he was always able to close on the smaller opponent.
The same applies to comparing Kreuzer and Phillips, Phillips is clearly faster than Kreuzer across the ground in a straight line, but Phillips gets to half the contests. Jones is clearly the fastest of the lot, but he's often trapped in no man's land by indecision or being outnumbered due to our utilities stranding him against many.
What we saw yesterday in Adelaide was the problem with a tall team if you only get 1/2 a game of effort out of the utility and small on-ballers.
Other than Daisy and Wright more often than not it was Kreuzer running past blokes like SPS, O'Shea or Mullet to pressure an opponent. When the medium/smalls raised their efforts to AFL standard we looked 300% better. I felt sorry for Fisher and Cripps yesterday, when Kreuzer, Wright or Daisy we not around the ball to help them they got almost zero assistance on the inside. Ed was quite good but being the 3rd or 4th hand on the ball he blanketed Gibbs and some others. Kennedy does not look fit, he's almost certainly carrying an injury.
(05-05-2018, 11:03 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:As long as Simpson is our play maker down back we won't win a game.
He's certainly in a weird situation, he's winning lots of football, but those crucial moments he cooks it really hurts us! This role he is playing doesn't really suit him, not because he can't read the play, but because of his low efficiency he's running himself into the ground going backwards and forwards mostly at his own fault!
Also we need a couple of the younger guys doing the sacrificial stuff, Armfield style, at the moment they run along beside players in photo opportunities.
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - laj - 05-06-2018
We need to shrink in defence and drop a ruckman. If we go in lumbering and tall they run us silly on the outside. If we go smaller and can pressure then in-close i'm confident we beat them. Essendon struggles bad when a side pressures them in-close. Let's see how smart/dumb our match committee are.