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Re: Smith's Crew in SA - LP - 03-06-2018
(03-06-2018, 10:07 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/david-warner-and-quinton-de-kock-charged-over-stairwell-standoff-20180307-p4z354.html
Maybe the Saffers have told a few porkies in an endeavour to save their skin....if that is proven - that De Kock was out of line - and Warner had not inappropriately insulted on onfield, not sure how Warner gets a higher penalty?
But again, Warner should not have reacted the way he did - in any circumstance imo.
There is always a home town bias, the match referee will be heavily lobbied and pressured by many more locals than Aussie visitors.
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-07-2018
(03-06-2018, 10:07 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/david-warner-and-quinton-de-kock-charged-over-stairwell-standoff-20180307-p4z354.html
Maybe the Saffers have told a few porkies in an endeavour to save their skin....if that is proven - that De Kock was out of line - and Warner had not inappropriately insulted on onfield, not sure how Warner gets a higher penalty?
But again, Warner should not have reacted the way he did - in any circumstance imo.
Warner has form which wont help him, DeKock is meant to be more mild mannered but I reckon both parties are to blame and if penalties are handed out it should be a even handed approach....fine both players or suspend both players from playing next match...ok if Warner has more form he gets a bigger fine but I dont want to see him suspended and the other bloke with a paltry fine....
And can we do something about teams having to separate the dressing rooms a bit better?....or have a orderly departure from the ground where the batsman leave first so there is no interaction between players in astairwell...
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - LP - 03-07-2018
I think Quinten de Kock may well be one of those quiet loud mouth snipers, the type who go about sucking people in without doing it in a obtrusive manner. A sneaky bastard, in other circles maybe even a bit of a psychopath!
Warner, he reminds me of the bad old days of NSW cricket, when they were a real bunch of loud mouth mindless smart-arses who's ability wasn't nearly as deep as their narcissism and nepotism.
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - laj - 03-07-2018
(03-06-2018, 09:12 AM)DJC link Wrote:Sadly, I think you’re right FB.
Warner likes to dish it out but isn’t terribly good at taking it.
Don't think he has an issue taking it jut that it becoming personal when his wife became involved. De Kock must've said something bad about her for Warner to go off like that. Can't blame a man for defending attacks against his missus.
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - flyboy77 - 03-07-2018
(03-07-2018, 02:31 AM)laj link Wrote:Don't think he has an issue taking it jut that it becoming personal when his wife became involved. De Kock must've said something bad about her for Warner to go off like that. Can't blame a man for defending attacks against his missus.
When you're the VC of a national team, very much under scrutiny, you can't afford to "go off like that".
What planet you living on Jim?
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - DJC - 03-07-2018
(03-07-2018, 02:31 AM)laj link Wrote:Don't think he has an issue taking it jut that it becoming personal when his wife became involved. De Kock must've said something bad about her for Warner to go off like that. Can't blame a man for defending attacks against his missus.
So it’s OK for Warner to say whatever he likes but not OK for our opponents? I’m reminded of when McGrath went troppo after his sledge backfired.
I don’t mind sledging, as long as it relates to the game and is not abusive. The cricket ground is a workplace and cricketers should be able to pursue their craft without having to put up with offensive and abusive comments.
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-07-2018
(03-07-2018, 02:31 AM)laj link Wrote:Don't think he has an issue taking it jut that it becoming personal when his wife became involved. De Kock must've said something bad about her for Warner to go off like that. Can't blame a man for defending attacks against his missus.
The Saffies have said Warner commented on DeKocks mother and sister during the course of play?.....its all he said , she said stuff...only the umpires can adjudicate IMO, the players will all stick up for their teammates anyway. I'd like to see Jeff Crowe set some boundaries and get the umpires to restrict what is said so it becomes more obvious when players step over the line, then issue them a warning....
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - PaulP - 03-07-2018
(03-07-2018, 05:30 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:The Saffies have said Warner commented on DeKocks mother and sister during the course of play?.....its all he said , she said stuff...only the umpires can adjudicate IMO, the players will all stick up for their teammates anyway. I'd like to see Jeff Crowe set some boundaries and get the umpires to restrict what is said so it becomes more obvious when players step over the line, then issue them a warning....
Either ban sledging or mike up all the players.
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - flyboy77 - 03-08-2018
If Warner was sledging De Kock's mum and sister staggered that the umpires wouldn't or couldn't have heard it - it's a pretty small place/area out there and both umpires are never far from the batsmen.
So, if Paine and the umpires heard nothing, well i'll take that over whatever the Saffers are concocting....
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - laj - 03-09-2018
(03-07-2018, 03:17 AM)DJC link Wrote:So it’s OK for Warner to say whatever he likes but not OK for our opponents? I’m reminded of when McGrath went troppo after his sledge backfired.
I don’t mind sledging, as long as it relates to the game and is not abusive. The cricket ground is a workplace and cricketers should be able to pursue their craft without having to put up with offensive and abusive comments.
Not when it's family. Warner didn't go down the family route. De Kock did though. Maybe Warner rubbed De Kock the wrong way....lol!