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Re: Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney - DJC - 08-26-2017
(08-26-2017, 12:03 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Kruezer was great and should be AA, Murphy I was less enthused about, worked hard enough but some of his defensive work was poor and he continues to kick short and be indirect.
Didnt blame Jones today, we were a 3rd tall defender short IMO and missed Marchbank, Rowe, ACOS and Plowman...Jones needed help vs Buddy but we didnt have the equipment to help him as
we were undersized. The Swans got the ball down down inside 50 too much and too quickly and we just fell apart under the weight of entries...
Bolton doesnt have a plan B after his 7 men back in defense plan and we need to work on that for next season as well as turn over the list with about 10-12 players cut IMO...
Jones was caught out by his lack of experience as a key defender. Yes, he was lacking support but his poor positioning and body work against an elite forward showed just how much work he needs to do to become a genuine key defender. Docherty had a shocker tonight, which put more pressure on the defence, but Jones has to learn how to neutralise the ball if he is unable to win it.
It's hard to have a Plan B if half of the squad aren't capable of executing Plan A. Hopefully the young blokes will continue to develop and we won't have to rely on Murphy, Gibbs and Kreuzer to the same extent next season.
Re: Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney - LoveNavy - 08-26-2017
Aside from Dennis, I wonder who else we saw the last of today (or beforehand, as with those on the injury list)??
Re: Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 08-26-2017
(08-26-2017, 11:51 AM)Shakin77 link Wrote:We lost.
Cue the petty attacks on Murph and Gibbs who had great seasons. Seems to annoy some supporters. Go figure.
Jesus, these Murphy and Gibbs apologists have no shame. Their effort today reflected their careers at Carlton. Soft. That effort of Murphy's on the wing was pathetic. Has he ever made a tackle during his career?
I swear you must watch a different game to me every week. The amount of turnovers, fumbles, juggling and sh#tting themselves both do weekly basis is sickening. I now call Gibbs "The Juggler" because he fumbles it nearly every time he receives the ball and most times is because he's expecting contact. It's never clean. Swatch him in traffic and you'll see what I mean. F#ckin' hopeless.
I hope one or both of these pussies can be managed out of the club during the off season. Please SOS make it happen. I'm sick of watching the two softest c#cks ever to play the game, play for my club. Make end, please make it end!
Re: Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney - cookie2 - 08-26-2017
I'm looking forward to the "rebuild" continuing with our midfield for 2018. As oft posted on here there are glaring deficiencies and plenty of theories and ideas as to how to fix it. I'm wondering how SoS and BB see it and will be fascinated to see how they go about it.
Re: Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney - shawny - 08-26-2017
Last nights game shows how far we drop when we lose more then 2-3 from our starting 18. We have 'just' been competitive without cripps and curnow but once you take out a few more we drop very quickly.
Our list has an early tipping point due to lack of decent depth players and I really hope sos does a better job then he did last year in this regard.
Players like smedts and Palmer are wasted picks IMO we need decent consistent back ups not high risk perspective picks for these positions.
We can't be uncompetitive next season when we are down a few soldiers which will occur in a long season.
With a healthy list we could win 8-10 games next year. But lose more then 2-3 of starting 18 and we quickly drop off to close to the worst team in the comp.
Kelly hooper and co would be nice additions if SOS can make it happen but the need of real depth players can't be underestimated.
Re: Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney - cookie2 - 08-26-2017
(08-26-2017, 10:26 PM)shawny link Wrote:Last nights game shows how far we drop when we lose more then 2-3 from our starting 18. We have 'just' been competitive without cripps and curnow but once you take out a few more we drop very quickly.
Our list has an early tipping point due to lack of decent depth players and I really hope sos does a better job then he did last year in this regard.
Players like smedts and Palmer are wasted picks IMO we need decent consistent back ups not high risk perspective picks for these positions.
We can't be uncompetitive next season when we are down a few soldiers which will occur in a long season.
With a healthy list we could win 8-10 games next year. But lose more then 2-3 of starting 18 and we quickly drop off to close to the worst team in the comp.
Kelly hooper and co would be nice additions if SOS can make it happen but the need of real depth players can't be underestimated.
Can we achieve that and at the same time be trading out too many key members of our current best 22? This will be the challenge for next year and mistakes could be costly. I think SoS is well across things and I'm pretty confident ways will be found. A fascinating time to be a CFC supporter for sure.
Re: Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney - deags - 08-26-2017
2 points to start off with.
Does any team lose it's feet more, or fall/slip over more than Carlton? Is it just me or do our blokes seem to slip and slide all over the place. It's been noticeable for a couple of seasons and I'm sure I've heard it commented on before. Needs sorting out whether it's a boots thing or a lack of Pilates.
Does any team get a better run from the umpires than Sydney? It's disgraceful. Sure it's not why we lost but feck me, it just irks me sooo much.
Re: Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney - Gointocarlton - 08-26-2017
(08-26-2017, 10:53 PM)deags link Wrote:2 points to start off with.1. Yes we slip over alot
Does any team lose it's feet more, or fall/slip over more than Carlton? Is it just me or do our blokes seem to slip and slide all over the place. It's been noticeable for a couple of seasons and I'm sure I've heard it commented on before. Needs sorting out whether it's a boots thing or a lack of Pilates.
Does any team get a better run from the umpires than Sydney? It's disgraceful. Sure it's not why we lost but feck me, it just irks me sooo much.
2. Yes there is a team that gets a better leg up from the maggots, Geel at SS. Unwatchable.
Re: Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 08-26-2017
(08-26-2017, 10:26 PM)shawny link Wrote:Last nights game shows how far we drop when we lose more then 2-3 from our starting 18. We have 'just' been competitive without cripps and curnow but once you take out a few more we drop very quickly.
Our list has an early tipping point due to lack of decent depth players and I really hope sos does a better job then he did last year in this regard.
Players like smedts and Palmer are wasted picks IMO we need decent consistent back ups not high risk perspective picks for these positions.
We can't be uncompetitive next season when we are down a few soldiers which will occur in a long season.
With a healthy list we could win 8-10 games next year. But lose more then 2-3 of starting 18 and we quickly drop off to close to the worst team in the comp.
Kelly hooper and co would be nice additions if SOS can make it happen but the need of real depth players can't be underestimated.
Generally agree Shawny, except on Palmer : the only reason he's not getting games is because of our youth policy. He is exactly what a depth player should be - inexpensive, experienced, and can play a role decently without starring. Bolton's statement about picking players on form is nonsense. If it were true, Palmer would be a regular fixture in the 1sts.
Re: Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney - Vivian - 08-26-2017
Bit of a grim night. Made the trip up as well, but some warmer weather offset the second half belting. As a footy fan one doesn't see 10 goals kicked by a forward often either.
The midfield shallowness as others have said is the off season priority. Players with possessions in single figures mean huge pressure on a few. A couple of big bodies to line up with Cripps is urgent.
On the positive side we had a few passages of classy ball movement in the second quarter with centering kicks. Showed some promise and some confidence
As for players departing, well done Dennis for a good career. Others that may have played their last game are graham and casboult. I can't see why we would offer him anything more than a year or two so he will likely leave. Richmond have missed a ty Vickery style disappointment so may be a suitor.
Overall a poor season but getting games into players has been the success. The 2015 and 2016 draft cohort have all played some good chunks of league footy. Whereas the players from 2011-2014 are thin on the ground.