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Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong - BluePhantom - 07-29-2017

Just watched the replay of the Kreuzer incident, why didn't he get a free for holding the man?
I think Bryce held Danger for a split second too long and got pinged.
Frigging umpires.


Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong - Professer E - 07-29-2017

Did you see Selwood tummy tap Kerridge ?

Umpiring didn't affect the result but the Cats get away with murder...constant throws, front on or highish tackles, infringements around the contest - a lot of marginal stuff goes their way.


Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong - Gointocarlton - 07-29-2017

(07-29-2017, 10:36 PM)BluePhantom link Wrote:Just watched the replay of the Kreuzer incident, why didn't he get a free for holding the man?
I think Bryce held Danger for a split second too long and got pinged.
Frigging umpires.
Or when Murph got pinged for holding in the man in the centre of the ground in the 3rd or 4th??? That was a disgrace. Dangerfield you can barely lay a finger on and the umps blow their whistle. The free to Hawkins in a ruck contest with Kruze where the ump said he was dragged down. BS, as soon and Kruze made contact, he dropped his knees and threw himself backwards, arms outstretched (like his kent of a coach does in the box), whistle, free, goal!!! Yes there were some aweful frees, thats not why we got hammered though.


Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong - Gointocarlton - 07-29-2017

(07-29-2017, 09:24 PM)JonHenry link Wrote:Is that 3 injuries in 2 years for Dangerfield v Carlton?
Murphy, Judd and Kruezer.
Any chance we ever, ever, ever do anything about it?
Ill bet Bambi doesnt even get cited. If he does, it will be a fine at worst. Our Club should complain strongly if this occurs. I see little difference between what he did last night and what Gibbs to Gray a few years ago.


Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong - BluePhantom - 07-29-2017

(07-29-2017, 10:42 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Did you see Selwood tummy tap Kerridge ?

Umpiring didn't affect the result but the Cats get away with murder...constant throws, front on or highish tackles, infringements around the contest - a lot of marginal stuff goes their way.
Those constant throws they do. Selwood got pinged twice for it and he was gobsmacked he did anything wrong.
Our tackling was shite. Would always grab around the waist and leave their arms free to dish the ball off.


Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong - PaulP - 07-29-2017

85 tackles by us is a fair effort by current standards - the problem is that when you factor in the number of tackles that we missed or that the Cats managed to break, in combination with the amount of ball they had, the 85 doesn't seem so great.

The ease with which Geelong moved the ball all over the park is a big worry. Our forwards and mids don't apply much pressure, and the back 6 are constantly up against it.

Weitering is a huge worry for mine. He looks like a bloke taken from the 3rd round in the Rookie draft, not a former No 1. If this is our club's idea of development, then watch out.

There seems to be a lot of talk about getting games into kids, as if this will somehow make things alright. I'm not convinced by this. The bigger problem for mine is recruitment and body size. We look puny compared to the Cats. Blokes like Murphy, Fisher, Lamb etc., they can have 200 games under their belt, they will still be puny, and easily brushed off the contest. Big worry IMO.


Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong - PaulP - 07-29-2017

Also, hit outs, contested possessions, clearances, we either won or broke even. When you compare this with the disposal tally, it shows that we can get our hands on the ball, and then lose it far too quickly - in short, we're still turnover merchants, and don't defend well once the turnover occurs. The I50 count is reflective of the forwards and mids not working hard enough.


Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong - JonHenry - 07-29-2017

(07-29-2017, 10:51 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Ill bet Bambi doesnt even get cited. If he does, it will be a fine at worst. Our Club should complain strongly if this occurs. I see little difference between what he did last night and what Gibbs to Gray a few years ago.

Bambi?
Our side is full of Bambi's.
We are in NO position to call anyone else soft.
Great day to hang our head in shame


Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong - PaulP - 07-29-2017

(07-29-2017, 11:33 PM)JonHenry link Wrote:Bambi?
Our side is full of Bambi's.
We are in NO position to call anyone else soft.
Great day to hang our head in shame

I think he means Bambi as in sweet and innocent, can do no wrong, protected species etc. Not as in soft.


Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong - madbluboy - 07-29-2017

Danger has to go as the precedent was set with Cam McCarthy. MRP has no way out.