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Re: VFL 2017 Rd 8: Northern Blues vs Coburg at Preston - blue4life - 06-10-2017
(06-10-2017, 07:08 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Simple question, why ply Daisy before Graham in the 1s?
He's a much better footballer.
Re: VFL 2017 Rd 8: Northern Blues vs Coburg at Preston - Gointocarlton - 06-10-2017
(06-10-2017, 06:54 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Nick Graham is too good for this level.but probably not good enough at AFL level either.
Re: VFL 2017 Rd 8: Northern Blues vs Coburg at Preston - kruddler - 06-10-2017
(06-10-2017, 07:08 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Simple question, why ply Daisy before Graham in the 1s?
Daisy should be gone come season's end. Adds nothing to the future of the Club.
Graham is 22, still young and shown he is at least capable at the top level and may well prove to be much better again.
He's not slow at all, finds the pill and can finish.
You already got an answer from me....and the coach....but we are both delusional according to you, so nothing anybody else is going to say is going to change your mind. :
Re: VFL 2017 Rd 8: Northern Blues vs Coburg at Preston - crashlander - 06-10-2017
Peter Jackson VFL 2017
Northern Blues 2.6 7.7 13.13 14.16 (100)
Coburg 2.2 5.4 7.6 13.13 (91)
GOALS:
Northern Blues: Smedts 2 McKay 2 Corboy 2 Pickett Kerridge Boekhorst Armfield Phillips LeBois Sheehan Kerr
Coburg: McEvoy 4 Tilley 2 Hunt 2 Dodge 2 Goodwin 2 Kerbatieh
BEST:
Northern Blues: Graham Phillips McKay O'Shea White Kerridge
Coburg: Gregory Allan Iacobaccio Mellington Tilley McEvoy
NB: No mention of Palmer, who had 21 possessions in the first half.
Re: VFL 2017 Rd 8: Northern Blues vs Coburg at Preston - RiverRat - 06-10-2017
(06-10-2017, 08:00 AM)crashlander link Wrote:NB: No mention of Palmer, who had 21 possessions in the first half.
Didn't use it very well and went missing when the match was won and then almost lost.
Re: VFL 2017 Rd 8: Northern Blues vs Coburg at Preston - blue4life - 06-10-2017
Good to see McKay listed in the best players, we should give him a few senior games so that we can get a better idea whether he's got what it takes.
Jaksch is finished at Carlton by the looks of things, Buckley probably cooked as well.
Re: VFL 2017 Rd 8: Northern Blues vs Coburg at Preston - RiverRat - 06-10-2017
Macreadie - showed his usual poise in defence
White - strong defensive effort but with a few turnovers
Buckley - just a solid game in defence
Sheehan - just a solid game in defence
Jaksch - nothing to write home about in defence - to me he is a competent lead up forward but not much chop as a defender
Byrne - ball skills and attacking dash made him look like an AFL player returning after injury - should be considered for selection as soon as his fitness reaches the required level
Kerridge - played back, forward and in midfield - plenty of disposals but some shocking mistakes - par for the course
Graham - BOG by the length of the Flemington straight - lots of possessions - lots of decisive dash - effective disposals
Boekhorst - solid game - one of our best three
Smedts - did some nice things - effective without being outstanding
Polson - started like a house on fire in the first term but then had his fire dampened by a close checking opponent
Phillips - looks to have all of the physical skills to play in the ruck - except the strength to take or sustain body position against his opponent - not many other ruck stocks to back up Kreuzer so he had better make further improvements before we trade someone else in
Palmer - would be a good player if he had Graham's speed and kicking skills
McKay - seemed to get a lot more time on the ground today (probably because Gorringe was in the early game) - looks to have a future and could press for senior selection now if he converted more of his set shots - is Rocca's time fully occupied with Levi?
Armfield - much better than in his horrid recent performance but unlikely to be pressing for senior selection anytime soon
Pickett was the pick of the three small forwards because he did more that the others on the occasions that he injected himself into the game - impressive attack on the ball and opponents led to quite a few free kicks against but also some positive outcomes
LeBois - has excellent speed and even more excellent acceleration - flashed brilliance twice in the first quarter but was invisible thereafter or was he injured and off the ground?
Gallucci - also has speed but not much else
Kerr - played forward (with some competitiveness) and as back-up ruck (without achieving anything other than giving Phillips a rest)
Glass-McCasker - solid defensive performance in the early game but the fact that he was playing in the early game indicates that he hasn't improved since he arrived
Korcheck - played in the early game - presumably so that he and Phillips could both get more ruck time - gets his hands to many ruck contests but never looked able to direct the ball to advantage against a spindly, lightweight opponent - more effective when that opponent was injured and his next opponent was lightweight and under-size - looks like Tarzan; you know the rest - can we trade him for one of the American giants playing at another club?
Gorringe - doesn't look like Tarzan but definitely plays like Jane - played exclusively as a forward but contributed little - seems to have physical skills but very limited intensity or effort for the contest - his only attribute comes if you are looking for a word to rhyme with 'orange'
Re: VFL 2017 Rd 8: Northern Blues vs Coburg at Preston - Baggers - 06-10-2017
Disappointing game in many respects, terrible inconsistency, maybe it was having 2 weeks off.
Mrs Baggers and I moved around the ground a bit so we could get a good look at Casey B and a few other blokes... also she insisted on watching in the sunshine rather than the grandstand! Went looking for RR at half time but couldn't find you
Josh should give the blokes a rocket after this hot/cold effort... there was a dash of lethargy which was more than apparent. When we put the foot down for 10 minutes in the third and then for a little longer in the 3rd, we were dominant.
Thoughts on some individual players:
Casey Byrne: poise, composure, confident, vocal... welcome back. Seems to have played around 2 1/2 qtrs. Was running freely and did a couple of dashes through half back, linking up in the centre and then running forward. Yummy. Just missed a terrific goal after linking up through the guts.
Macreadie: serviceable. Did some good things in the heat. Coming along nicely.
White: the general down back and did some very good things, as you would reasonably expect. Good leadership. Was BOG for mine. Love some of the lip he gave opponents.
Buckley: hard to comment on Dylan's game as he is playing very differently, as if he's learning a completely new way to play. Very disciplined game from him today
Gus: One of our better players without being outstanding. You're confident when he has the ball in his hands.
Jaksch: played exclusively down back. Took a couple of timely grabs at the end. Not much else.
Kerridge: got plenty of it and I know he was mentioned in the best players but he, like Graham, turned it over too much. But you have to acknowledge that he put in and was very important at crucial moments with his strength and smart positioning.
Boekhorst: not the same bloke I saw a few weeks ago, the one who busted a gut from contest to contest. Flashed in and out of the game with some impressive efforts, which is the best I could say. Linked well at times.
Smedts: you want to like Billie. He provided a spark with important deft efforts when we were in trouble, particularly in the second and third quarters. Sent down back in the final qtr to try and help quell the onslaught.l Concerned.
Den Den: was his usual self without being outstanding. Good on-field leadership.
(The advantage of moving around the ground on the fence is that you get to hear a lot more of the on-field banter - Den, White and Palmer were the most vocal and instructional.)
H: working much harder and impacting many more contests in the air and at ground level. Has caught Casboultitis with his goal kicking (the old Casboult, that is
).Phillips: Flip was up against a huge lunatic, listening to what was coming out of his opponents mouth was hilarious. Anyway, Flip took some good grabs and worked hard in the ruck contests, winning his share.
Palmer: I know some may disagree but I thought this bloke was very instrumental in keeping us in the game in the first half with his endeavour and mongrel at the aggott, along with vocal instruction to team mates - no idea what happened to him in the last quarter, just non-existent... along with a number of his mates.
Le Bois: lively early and laid a couple of really good tackles, then faded.
Polson: probably a day he'd like to forget. Disappointing.
Pickett: some very good signs. Could have kicked a great running goal, he collected it just forward of the wing and took off leaving everyone in his wake and when he was about 30 metres from goal the bloke chasing him was illegally shepparded unnecessarily (stupidly) and the ball was given to the opposition by virtue of a free kick. Dumb footy... sorry, but it was a Preston bloke who infringed robbing Pickett of a ripper.
Graham: gave his all. Was winning the ball well but a few costly turnovers marred his efforts. Early in the last he tried to outrun a potential tackler which was dumb. The bloke caught him and the resultant turnover was critical to Coburg's comeback. Seemed to me that he tried to finesse at times and came undone. Great possession stats and some influential contributions but also some undisciplined efforts which'll make it hard for him to return to the seniors. Dirty Harry, "Man's got to know his limitations."
Gallucci: hard to see this effort, which was serviceable only, helping his cause re being at PP next year.
Kerr: struggled being second fiddle to H. Work in progress is the most positive thing I can say.
Preston boys: Wilson and O'Shea were the pick with strong efforts. This little Corboy fella deserves being watched.
Re: VFL 2017 Rd 8: Northern Blues vs Coburg at Preston - Baggers - 06-10-2017
(06-10-2017, 08:32 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Good to see McKay listed in the best players, we should give him a few senior games so that we can get a better idea whether he's got what it takes.
Jaksch is finished at Carlton by the looks of things, Buckley probably cooked as well.
Yep, we can forget Jaksch.
Bucks is an interesting one, be interesting to see how he does for the remainder of the year. As I mentioned in my humble summary, I thought he was very disciplined and seems to be changing his style. I'm cautiously optimistic.
Re: VFL 2017 Rd 8: Northern Blues vs Coburg at Preston - blue4life - 06-10-2017
(06-10-2017, 09:42 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Yep, we can forget Jaksch.
Hopefully we've also parted company with the bloke who paid pick 7 for him.