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Re: 2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle - LP - 05-21-2017
(05-21-2017, 09:29 PM)shawny link Wrote:Agree. We are expecting a lot to have a kid with less then 15 games to play the 2nd key forward role.
So C.Curnow gets a pass because 15 games isn't much for a kid to base a KPF role on, yet at the start of the season a lot of posters on here wanted Weitering to hold down the KPF role after only 20 games. Do five extra games make that much difference?
Seems a bit biased, what is OK for one is not OK for the other!
Re: 2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle - shawny - 05-21-2017
(05-21-2017, 09:45 PM)LP link Wrote:So C.Curnow gets a pass because 15 games isn't much for a kid to base a KPF role on, yet at the start of the season a lot of posters on here wanted Weitering to hold down the KPF role after only 20 games. Do five extra games make that much difference?
Seems a bit biased, what is OK for one is not OK for the other!
I understand your point but not all kids coming into the system can do what others can. Don't have to look far, McKay and Weitering both KP players were taken in the same draft!
We have a very young forward structure, and while I might be splitting hairs a little, Weitering is more capable and ready then Charlie to take a key forward post IMO at this early stage. His young body is more developed has played double what Charlie has and has had an extra pre season. Early in a players career that's massive difference.
He might still get banged up at times so he will need to be carefully managed but my point was with him there Charlie and even SOJ drop down the order of what defenders go to them, which helps them and in turn the team considerably.
Re: 2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle - deags - 05-21-2017
I'm enjoying C Curnow running in the midfield at the moment. I wouldn't mind seeing him stay there.
Re: 2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle - Pratty - 05-21-2017
Reading that question marks around some of our kids is laughable - spuds was even used for Charlie Curnow, Fisher and Cuningham. Haha...what a joke!
These kids ARE the future. They need the AFL body, maturity and development so give them some time and space for crying out loud!
We have plenty of spuds on our list, and these boys mentioned among other good kids, are not them!
Re: 2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle - shawny - 05-21-2017
(05-21-2017, 11:07 PM)Pratty link Wrote:Reading that question marks around some of our kids is laughable - spuds was even used for Charlie Curnow, Fisher and Cuningham. Haha...what a joke!
These kids ARE the future. They need the AFL body, maturity and development so give them some time and space for crying out loud!
We have plenty of spuds on our list, and these boys mentioned among other good kids, are not them!
Very well said!
Re: 2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle - Baggers - 05-21-2017
(05-21-2017, 02:05 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:I was content with Cunningham's effort - looked better than he has looked in the VFL
CCurnow suffered with Weitering playing in defence, which meant that Charlie was matched up by a better opponent.
Totally agree. Pleasantly surprised with Cuningham. I thought his work in tight early was sure and effective - good hands; good decisions. He faded but had plenty of mates.
Re: 2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle - Lods - 05-21-2017
It's really hard to make too many judgements on individuals in that game.
The TV filters out the actual extreme nature of the weather and what looks like a lot of rain can be torrential. Add to that the wind which seemed to be all over the place. (Someone who was at the game could give us a better idea)
Sure both sides had to cope with it... but mature bodies probably can cope a bit better, especially when we were down two men in the rotations and others coming off at regular intervals with niggles.
We dominated them early and were still a chance well into the last quarter...although it was kind of obvious we were just hanging on.
The effort seemed to still be there. It just became too much to resist
Re: 2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle - flyboy77 - 05-21-2017
Some people have been bagging Graham....
The mid field, Kreuzer included, was collectively terrible after quarter time. Kreuzer simply stopped playing the ball and was too focused on big Sandi.... the set ups were terrible given Sandi was having a party in there.
Next time we play Freo, I'd play Korchek if we can....Kreuzer gets overwhelmed by the size disparity.
I thought Gibbs again was putrid. Shocking, lazy disposal and he squibbed on one marking contest which would have seen a shot on goal 40 out.
Would trade him in a heart beat for a good deal.
Plenty of numbers but as s senior, highly skilled player....very, very lazy.
Graham, other than yesterday, has been entirely serviceable.
Our game plan is simply too, too slow. Gives us big stats but stops us scoring. Bolts needs to dish up better.... but that said if you can't win or even touch the ball in the centre no chance in a game....
SPS has gone missing since his break out game. Need to find a role for him in which he can get him involved or put him in the 2s to get some hand on leather time....
I thought our intensity was way off after quarter time - it reminded me of days gone by when we would play 20 minutes of good footy then think the job was done.....
That said, injuries didn't help but at least Jones will now get a well deserved run.
Time to bring back Smedts and Palmer imo. Rest a few of the kids on a rotation.
Any wtf is happening with SoJ's kicking - looks more spooked than Levi did at his worst!
Re: 2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle - flyboy77 - 05-21-2017
(05-21-2017, 11:22 PM)Baggers link Wrote:Totally agree. Pleasantly surprised with Cuningham. I thought his work in tight early was sure and effective - good hands; good decisions. He faded but had plenty of mates.
He definitely looks the part physically and has some dash. Needs to be given more games....haven't seen the stats but did a lot more than SPS you'd think.....
Re: 2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle - Professer E - 05-21-2017
Fly, you've summed up Gibbs to a tee.