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Re: Rd 19: Pre Game Prayers: Carlton vs Hawthorn - blue4life - 07-28-2016
(07-26-2016, 02:00 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:However, I would agree I think we need another marking target forward. Why they won't do it is a mystery to me but I've given up doubting.
Because opposition teams can run off all of our tall forward options at will.
Casboult has the turning circle of a Kenworth, Everitt wouldn't know what a tackle was, Jones runs around like he means business but he's laid 8 tackles in 5 games this season and the less said about Jaksch the better.
Kreuzer isn't a key forward by any stretch but at least the opposition know he's around.
Re: Rd 19: Pre Game Prayers: Carlton vs Hawthorn - townsendcalling - 07-28-2016
One change:
C Curnow out
Lovechild Everitt in
Emergencies
13 Jed Lamb
14 Liam Jones
24 Mark Whiley
Lamb did SFA last week in the NBs!!
Liam Jones, very stiff!!!
Re: Rd 19: Pre Game Prayers: Carlton vs Hawthorn - Baggers - 07-28-2016
You could just tell how Everitt's performances over the past 2 weeks in the magoos were being pumped up that we were being softened for his return. Well, his opponent for Saturday will finish the game without a mark on him and with good stats. Love to be wrong but can't see this delicate little flower hardening up for an encounter against the Dawks... be up to his team mates to do the hard stuff and they probably know that. Playing as loose as he does means he'll probably snag a couple.
Re: Rd 19: Pre Game Prayers: Carlton vs Hawthorn - laj - 07-28-2016
(07-28-2016, 08:20 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Because opposition teams can run off all of our tall forward options at will.
Casboult has the turning circle of a Kenworth, Everitt wouldn't know what a tackle was, Jones runs around like he means business but he's laid 8 tackles in 5 games this season and the less said about Jaksch the better.
Kreuzer isn't a key forward by any stretch but at least the opposition know he's around.
6 from 7 with two key forwards, zero from 10 without.
Re: Rd 19: Pre Game Prayers: Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 07-28-2016
Everitt needs to pull his finger out. No bigger stage than against the hawks....albeit in tassie.
Re: Rd 19: Pre Game Prayers: Carlton vs Hawthorn - crashlander - 07-28-2016
Oh well, did I really think we were trying to win? Must have thought it was 2018 or something.....
Carlton
B: Lachie Plowman, Jacob Weitering, Dylan Buckley.
HB: Sam Docherty, Sam Rowe, Ed Curnow.
C: Blaine Boekhorst, Patrick Cripps, Kade Simpson.
HF: Sam Kerridge, Levi Casboult, Dennis Armfield.
F: Nick Graham, Simon White, Jack Silvagni.
Foll: Andrew Phillips, Bryce Gibbs, Matthew Wright.
Int: Matthew Kreuzer, Andrejs Everitt, Liam Sumner, Zach Tuohy.
Emg: Jed Lamb, Liam Jones, Mark Whiley.
In: Andrejs Everitt.
Out: Charlie Curnow (Knee)
Hawthorn
B: Taylor Duryea, James Frawley, Ben Stratton.
HB: Luke Hodge, Josh Gibson, Grant Birchall.
C: Isaac Smith, Sam Mitchell, Bradley Hill.
HF: Luke Breust, Jack Gunston, Brendan Whitecross.
F: James Sicily, Ben McEvoy, Cyril Rioli.
Foll: Jonathon Ceglar, Jordan Lewis, Shaun Burgoyne.
Int: Kaiden Brand, Will Langford, Jonathan O'Rourke, Tim O'Brien.
Emg: Dallas Willsmore, Blake Hardwick, Kurt Heatherley
If we had some idea how to kick goals, I'd be a lot happier. But with 1 key forward, who couldn't get a kick last week, our forward power does not impress.
Ceglar and McEvoy usually dine out on our rucks and we don't usually tag Mitchell, with unsurprising results.
Re: Rd 19: Pre Game Prayers: Carlton vs Hawthorn - cookie2 - 07-28-2016
Says a lot about the futures of Jones and KJ at CFC.
Re: Rd 19: Pre Game Prayers: Carlton vs Hawthorn - laj - 07-28-2016
(07-28-2016, 08:52 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Oh well, did I really think we were trying to win? Must have thought it was 2018 or something.....Unfortunately, as one key forward, he won't get many marks or kicks as the opposition will double and triple team him, especially with slow movement of the ball. Unless you're a real gun forward, like Fev, the key forward will struggle and for many will hurt their confidence. This is issue is more to do with structure and team selection as it is with the key forward. If we had two then the defence would have to spread to cover them you might see Casboult get up the ground more take a defender or two with him. That would open up the 50 to allow our smaller blokes space to run and kicks some goals. Results mid year proved that to be the case as compared to results early in the year with one key forward where we couldn't kick a goal or win a game. This week a chance to sort that by playing an extra key forward to replace C.Curnow and we choose Everitt. More important we have two key forwards than two ruckmen, who can't play forward and generally don't do anything when off the ball.
Carlton
B: Lachie Plowman, Jacob Weitering, Dylan Buckley.
HB: Sam Docherty, Sam Rowe, Ed Curnow.
C: Blaine Boekhorst, Patrick Cripps, Kade Simpson.
HF: Sam Kerridge, Levi Casboult, Dennis Armfield.
F: Nick Graham, Simon White, Jack Silvagni.
Foll: Andrew Phillips, Bryce Gibbs, Matthew Wright.
Int: Matthew Kreuzer, Andrejs Everitt, Liam Sumner, Zach Tuohy.
Emg: Jed Lamb, Liam Jones, Mark Whiley.
In: Andrejs Everitt.
Out: Charlie Curnow (Knee)
Hawthorn
B: Taylor Duryea, James Frawley, Ben Stratton.
HB: Luke Hodge, Josh Gibson, Grant Birchall.
C: Isaac Smith, Sam Mitchell, Bradley Hill.
HF: Luke Breust, Jack Gunston, Brendan Whitecross.
F: James Sicily, Ben McEvoy, Cyril Rioli.
Foll: Jonathon Ceglar, Jordan Lewis, Shaun Burgoyne.
Int: Kaiden Brand, Will Langford, Jonathan O'Rourke, Tim O'Brien.
Emg: Dallas Willsmore, Blake Hardwick, Kurt Heatherley
If we had some idea how to kick goals, I'd be a lot happier. But with 1 key forward, who couldn't get a kick last week, our forward power does not impress.
Ceglar and McEvoy usually dine out on our rucks and we don't usually tag Mitchell, with unsurprising results.
Re: Rd 19: Pre Game Prayers: Carlton vs Hawthorn - Robblues - 07-28-2016
(07-28-2016, 09:16 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Says a lot about the futures of Jones and KJ at CFC.Not sure the word future and those names mentioned should be in the same sentence, might be all over red rover for them. It would have been an opportunity to have a last look at Jones , seems to have deserved his chance in the NB's.
Re: Rd 19: Pre Game Prayers: Carlton vs Hawthorn - DJC - 07-28-2016
(07-28-2016, 08:36 AM)laj link Wrote:6 from 7 with two key forwards, zero from 10 without.
You keep repeating that but that doesn't make it correct. We won four games with Jones and Casboult as key forwards, including the Port game where Casboult effectively played no part.
Our two other wins were with one key forward and two ruckmen. That's not counting Everitt, White and Walker as key forwards and one would be very generous to do so.