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Re: VFL Rd 16: Northern Blues vs Footscray at Ikon Park - crashlander - 07-24-2016
(07-24-2016, 07:05 AM)laj link Wrote:I don't think we've done well out of speculative picks ever.There was a time when we were pretty good at it. Guys like Houlihan and Hammill were excellent late picks. However, since we institutionalized the idea under WH, we lost the knack. We had a decade of failure with that type of pick, especially when our last pick was still in the 30's. I wanted us to get Swallow, who went well after our last pick that year. Any guesses as to who we actually selected? I'll give you a hint: his old man played for a couple of clubs including Richmond.
I could Raso: his pick was very late. Others.....
That sort of ide did not seem to be part of the Silvagni lexicon: we didn't have a live pick later than the 20's, and the one we did have was Jack Silvagni. After a decade of missing out, I could live with that.
Re: VFL Rd 16: Northern Blues vs Footscray at Ikon Park - laj - 07-24-2016
(07-24-2016, 07:14 AM)crashlander link Wrote:There was a time when we were pretty good at it. Guys like Houlihan and Hammill were excellent late picks. However, since we institutionalized the idea under WH, we lost the knack. We had a decade of failure with that type of pick, especially when our last pick was still in the 30's. I wanted us to get Swallow, who went well after our last pick that year. Any guesses as to who we actually selected? I'll give you a hint: his old man played for a couple of clubs including Richmond.
I could Raso: his pick was very late. Others.....
That sort of ide did not seem to be part of the Silvagni lexicon: we didn't have a live pick later than the 20's, and the one we did have was Jack Silvagni. After a decade of missing out, I could live with that.
Yes, good point.
Re: VFL Rd 16: Northern Blues vs Footscray at Ikon Park - RiverRat - 07-24-2016
(07-24-2016, 06:50 AM)laj link Wrote:Of course he'll play this year. You can bet he'll experience senior footy before the year's out to give him a taste and a bit of experience. At that time of the year it's not going to exactly hurt anything. He'll play against Brisbane or Essendon.
IIRC - In J Waite's first season, he was the only player on the list who did not play a senior game - because he was not ready. That sort of judgement should apply here.
Re: VFL Rd 16: Northern Blues vs Footscray at Ikon Park - townsendcalling - 07-24-2016
(07-24-2016, 08:41 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:IIRC - In J Waite's first season, he was the only player on the list who did not play a senior game - because he was not ready. That sort of judgement should apply here.
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Re: VFL Rd 16: Northern Blues vs Footscray at Ikon Park - kruddler - 07-24-2016
(07-24-2016, 08:41 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:IIRC - In J Waite's first season, he was the only player on the list who did not play a senior game - because he was not ready. That sort of judgement should apply here.
I believe they made a promise to his dad at the time that they wouldn't play him no matter what happened that year.
That differs to what Bolton said in the pre-season this year...."There is no ceiling on what you can achieve this year. If that is to play senior football, then so be it"
Re: VFL Rd 16: Northern Blues vs Footscray at Ikon Park - DJC - 07-24-2016
(07-24-2016, 09:45 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I believe they made a promise to his dad at the time that they wouldn't play him no matter what happened that year.
That differs to what Bolton said in the pre-season this year...."There is no ceiling on what you can achieve this year. If that is to play senior football, then so be it"
Bolton also made it clear at the time that players weren't entitled to games.
He recently (on SOJ's debut) clarified his position on playing our youngsters:
Quote:“This is our draft class. We would like to play them, just like Jack did today.
“Provided they have got game time under them and are not at risk and their form is sound, we will have a look at them.”
That suggests that McKay and Cuningham will run around in the VFL for a while longer. Hopefully, they will tick the boxes for a senior game before the end of the season.
Re: VFL Rd 16: Northern Blues vs Footscray at Ikon Park - laj - 07-24-2016
(07-24-2016, 08:41 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:IIRC - In J Waite's first season, he was the only player on the list who did not play a senior game - because he was not ready. That sort of judgement should apply here.
That was then, this is now. Not interested in 2002.
If he's showing something, which he is, 5 goals in 2 goals shows that, he'll benefit from a feel of senior footy and it's requirements to carry into the pre-season. Somewhere around rounds 21-23, what the hell have you got to lose at that time of the year, even if it's only one game. He can only gain, surely, even if he doesn't get a kick. Nothing like a bit of experience and important for development. Be brainless not to give him a feel of AFL footy as things are currently. Not as if he's struggling at VFL level. Same goes for Cunningham. One game, whats the issue.
Re: VFL Rd 16: Northern Blues vs Footscray at Ikon Park - Jofo - 07-24-2016
McKay should and will play senior footy. The problem right now is his aerobic capacity. Forwards must also act defensively these days and if he hasn't got the tank, we get exposed. Maybe another 2 games in the VFL and then he's in for the last 3 games.
Re: VFL Rd 16: Northern Blues vs Footscray at Ikon Park - Baggers - 07-24-2016
Bloody good effort from the NBs, this mob has had the wood on us for a while now and when I say they have the wood on us... they've been pounding us! Yes, they might be a few blokes out but so have we.
Would have loved to have been there but busy in SpannerTown (Canberra) on work. Colder than a politicians promise here, but then Melbourne's not much better. (Really pretty driving in, Spanner).
Be interesting to see who comes in for Charlie... between Jaksch, Jones and Everitt. Bearing in mind we're up against the Dawks you might want someone with a little mongrel for the contest which would favour Jones. Of course McKay is a chance too... Gorringe?
You'd think that Whiley would be a monty for Kerridge even if Kerridge comes up okay.
Re: VFL Rd 16: Northern Blues vs Footscray at Ikon Park - crazyjoedevolamk11 - 07-24-2016
Hey Baggers, Spanner Town at Ikon today, put Canberra to shame, Jones and Whiley for mine on what I saw today, although dare I add Tutt to the mix? Was everywhere today, worked his arse off????