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Re: Rd 17: Post Game Paralysis: Carlton vs West Coast - Mondy - 07-17-2016
(07-17-2016, 07:38 AM)crashlander link Wrote:I have to agree. They are simply not getting enough of the ball at the moment and not ding enough with it when they have got it. Sumner had a couple of shocking turnovers today that lead directly to Weagle goals. Yes, he wasn't alone, but with guys like Boekhorst (finally) showing something, it is time to get them a go in the VFL. They will be with us in 2017. Other guys have not had an opportunity yet, and need to in the next few weeks.
I wouldn't play Charlie Curnow next week either. He didn't make much of a contribution, which isn't a huge surprise, considering what he has been through this year. He showed he is going to be a player. Fine. Now try Jones. Jones has to convince SOS and Bolts that he is worth persevering with.
I was happy enough with Weitering. He is not in great form at the moment, but it is a long season for young kids like him. He didn't have a good match up in defence for periods of the game, so sending him forward was definitely worth the risk and gave us some rewards. He will probably pinch hit as a forward in the future sometimes, so we saw that he can do it.
I think dropping Curnow for Jones is a backward step. Curnow really grew into the game and given he's been out for more than three months it was a better than serviceable effort.
Re: Rd 17: Post Game Paralysis: Carlton vs West Coast - laj - 07-17-2016
(07-17-2016, 07:40 AM)TheSheik link Wrote:I was not that enamored with the fact that Lamb was coming to the club as he hadn't done much at his two previous clubs.
Upon arrival at Princes Park, there is one trait that stands out to me and that is he doesn't mind chasing & tackling, there is a defensive mindset. To that end, I'd like to see him groomed as a permanent defender but in the role that we have been screaming for, that being to mind the dangerous forward pocket goal-sneaks (eg. Betts, Blair etc).
I'm not saying it is a certainty to work but I feel that both he & the club stand to gain so much more if it does turn out positively.
He was essentially an "extra" though amongst the 4 we got from GWS. Defence is worth a shot although he might get dropped for Boekhorst next week.
Re: Rd 17: Post Game Paralysis: Carlton vs West Coast - laj - 07-17-2016
(07-17-2016, 07:49 AM)Mondy link Wrote:I think dropping Curnow for Jones is a backward step. Curnow really grew into the game and given he's been out for more than three months it was a better than serviceable effort.
Casboult will come back in next week so doubt Jones will. Would've been nice to have both he and Weitering up forward in the 2nd half.
Re: Rd 17: Post Game Paralysis: Carlton vs West Coast - laj - 07-17-2016
One thing today showed us. Once we can get a few decent midfielders we will be good. Definitely our target this draft/trade period. Look forward to Cunningham getting a run, Boekhorst coming back.
With SOS and eventuallly C.Curnow we don't need Everitt or Walker much more offten
Re: Rd 17: Post Game Paralysis: Carlton vs West Coast - DJC - 07-17-2016
I should have mentioned that I liked the orange socks today. The "Carlton Respects" initiative is timely and recognises the role social influencers can have to change unacceptable and damaging behaviour.
Re: Rd 17: Post Game Paralysis: Carlton vs West Coast - RiverRat - 07-17-2016
(07-17-2016, 07:40 AM)TheSheik link Wrote:I was not that enamored with the fact that Lamb was coming to the club as he hadn't done much at his two previous clubs.
Upon arrival at Princes Park, there is one trait that stands out to me and that is he doesn't mind chasing & tackling, there is a defensive mindset. To that end, I'd like to see him groomed as a permanent defender but in the role that we have been screaming for, that being to mind the dangerous forward pocket goal-sneaks (eg. Betts, Blair etc).
I'm not saying it is a certainty to work but I feel that both he & the club stand to gain so much more if it does turn out positively.
In most of his games I had a different opinion and felt that he has lacked the effort and speed to chase and assert real pressure - more of a 'run-along-after-the-guy-with-the-ball' type without ever looking likely to catch him, like Gibbs has always been. About the only game when I shared your opinion was against the Saints, when he really showed some intensity. I prefer Sumner.
Re: Rd 17: Post Game Paralysis: Carlton vs West Coast - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-17-2016
Reckon we need to ease up on Jaksch....sure he didnt have a great game, had some bad errors but he also took a hit for the team when he backed into a marking contest and while making a good spoil. Its all about workrate with KJ and if he keeps committing himself like that spoil then he will make it and have the coach in his corner.
Weitering is injured and needs resting and I'd be playing KJ at CHB where he looks more comfortable and where I have seen him play his best footy.
It was a fairly uninspiring game until about 10 minutes to go and some of our young blokes like Weitering and Curnow got us back in the game..SOSOS took some good marks and if you took some of the over possessing errors out it wasnt a bad effort albeit that West Coast are pretenders and not really top 4 material.
I'm a Charlie Curnow fan and reckon he has more ability than most and I'd be keeping him in the team....also like his enthusiasm and the way he goes about his work, he some attitude and you compare him to Everitt for example and you can see winning means something to Charlie other than just a another paycheck...
Re: Rd 17: Post Game Paralysis: Carlton vs West Coast - laj - 07-17-2016
SOS's shank was up there with one of the best i've seen. Levi would be proud of that one..lol
Re: Rd 17: Post Game Paralysis: Carlton vs West Coast - Blue Moon - 07-17-2016
First off I was pretty disappointed that with so many secret service agents with so much fire power and not one terrorist umpire was taken out.
The comments about Jaksch seem very similar to the comments that have been made about Rowe, White, Buckley, Graham, Armfield, E Curnow, Gorringe and a few others over the years. I thought he was pretty committed to the contest. As I said last week about Jones with the Northern Blues, being center half forward for Carlton is probably the second toughest job in football.
Bonehead errors killed us today but the upside was the efforts of our young players. Silvagni, Weitering and C Curnow, who were fantastic today, along with Cripps, Phillips, Buckley & Graham.
Let's celebrate the future rather than wallow in the disappointment of the result.
Re: Rd 17: Post Game Paralysis: Carlton vs West Coast - laj - 07-17-2016
(07-17-2016, 08:54 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Reckon we need to ease up on Jaksch....sure he didnt have a great game, had some bad errors but he also took a hit for the team when he backed into a marking contest and while making a good spoil. Its all about workrate with KJ and if he keeps committing himself like that spoil then he will make it and have the coach in his corner.
Weitering is injured and needs resting and I'd be playing KJ at CHB where he looks more comfortable and where I have seen him play his best footy.
It was a fairly uninspiring game until about 10 minutes to go and some of our young blokes like Weitering and Curnow got us back in the game..SOSOS took some good marks and if you took some of the over possessing errors out it wasnt a bad effort albeit that West Coast are pretenders and not really top 4 material.
I'm a Charlie Curnow fan and reckon he has more ability than most and I'd be keeping him in the team....also like his enthusiasm and the way he goes about his work, he some attitude and you compare him to Everitt for example and you can see winning means something to Charlie other than just a another paycheck...
From what we've seen, with some of these younger players, we just a few good midfielders away from becoming a very good side in a couple of years.