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Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - cimm1979 - 07-06-2016
(07-06-2016, 02:21 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:A couple of quality mids would make a big improvement to us Cimm. Not saying we would be premiership material but we'd be a lot better.
Yep.
I think people will be surprised at just how much difference 2 more (quality) mids would make.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - Baggers - 07-06-2016
(07-06-2016, 03:06 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:Yep.
I think people will be surprised at just how much difference 2 more (quality) mids would make.
And a quality tall forward...
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - laj - 07-06-2016
(07-05-2016, 06:57 AM)Tribey72 link Wrote:I don't give a stuff who comes in, but someone has to come in and give Casboult a chop out. I could care less if it's Jaksch or Jones...but it has to be one of them.
Casboult is being used as the outlet marking option long from kick ins, or on the wing and we wonder why he's not taking grabs in front of goal or inside 50 like he was earlier in the season...the bloke cannot be expected to do everything, plus the oppo has worked out he's the only one over 190cm that needs to be manned up!
Make shifting it with medium forwards like Walker and Everett ain't working either. Junk time goals are papering over their enormous cracks.
And while we're at it...if the coaching staff aren't telling Tuohy to keep it more simple, then they're not doing their jobs. He's trying too much and it's not coming off. In fact, he's been terrible. First instruction should be to ban that play on, stat building kick out, which invariably results in the ball coming straight back in and costing us goals!
Actually it's not coincidence we started winning games, and eventually kicking alot more goals, when we picked a second key forward. First time was against Freo and we won 6 of our next 7.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - blue4life - 07-06-2016
(07-06-2016, 08:34 AM)laj link Wrote:Actually it's not coincidence we started winning games, and eventually kicking alot more goals, when we picked a second key forward.
I didn't know we had one, let alone two, who are these people and where have they been hiding?
Seriously though, when's Murphy going to play again?
We're buggered without him.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - madbluboy - 07-06-2016
Jones is 4-1 this year. 4-0 with Levi playing.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - kruddler - 07-06-2016
(07-06-2016, 10:33 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Jones is 4-1 this year. 4-0 with Levi playing.
We are 5-1 when Murphy's helmet is playing 2.
There is a dfference between correlation and causation.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - madbluboy - 07-06-2016
It's no coincidence we're undefeated when we play 2 key forwards.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - Thryleon - 07-06-2016
(07-06-2016, 10:47 AM)kruddler link Wrote:We are 5-1 when Murphy's helmet is playing 2.
There is a dfference between correlation and causation.
That's not even close to the same thing. You're much better than that kruddler.
Without doing a massive analysis I'd wager we scored more with two forwards but we may have also conceded more as well and that we are trying to get the balance right.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - laj - 07-07-2016
(07-06-2016, 10:33 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Jones is 4-1 this year. 4-0 with Levi playing.
I look at us kicking much better scores too. Without 2 key forwards we couldn't score. 2 key forwards spread the defence a bit more.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - laj - 07-07-2016
(07-06-2016, 10:47 AM)kruddler link Wrote:We are 5-1 when Murphy's helmet is playing 2.
There is a dfference between correlation and causation.
We had Murphy on the team early in the year and couldn't kick a score. Things improved straight up soon as we picked a 2nd key forward. Small sample size, and we did play better, but that's how it has happened thus far at least. A second key forward improves you structurally. We suddenly looked like we could kick a goal.
Unlike the days of Fev, who could have 4 defenders hang off him and still near kick 100 goals, we don't have anyone who can do that. Casboult is a decent player, certainly, but definitely not that good that he can be the one out key forward against the numbers of a defence hanging off him. He'd be overwhelmed. After all he is a 3rd round rookie pick, not a first round national draft gun. Hence the need for a 2nd one to spread the defence.
Edit: Only just noticed you said Murphy's helmet...lol.