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Re: Rd 15: Post Game ________: Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 07-02-2016
Agree with all comments from Brettie, EB, cookie and kruddler.
Jack did a couple of good things, but his game wasn't that great - the fact that this was his first AFL game was blindingly obvious. At any rate, he is a baby and is the least of our problems.
We are either tanking or staggeringly inept.
In the space of a few short seasons, we have gone from a team that had scoring potency, pace, skill and fluency of ball movement to this.
Re: Rd 15: Post Game ________: Carlton vs Collingwood - Jeffy38 - 07-02-2016
(07-02-2016, 12:52 PM)Rational_Expectations link Wrote:If Everitt isn't dropped after that performance, he never will.
Looked most dos interested in the TV I wonder if he looked any better live?
Re: Rd 15: Post Game ________: Carlton vs Collingwood - Jeffy38 - 07-02-2016
I can't believe people having a go at silvagni in his first game fmd. His kick for goal in the first should have been a goal but I can't think of a kid under more pressure than him.
I believe he was under instruction to not go up in two many contests and look for space, ala how he contributed to our first goal.
A glimpse of the future and he absolutely belongs out thrre
Re: Rd 15: Post Game ________: Carlton vs Collingwood - blue4life - 07-02-2016
(07-02-2016, 12:00 PM)LP link Wrote:There's one thing I can say, Everitt is over!
Everitt was poor, Casboult was beyond poor.
Levi is averaging single figure possessions and under a goal a game so far this season, he's 26 and won't be getting any better.
Re: Rd 15: Post Game ________: Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 07-02-2016
(07-02-2016, 10:07 PM)Jeffy38 link Wrote:I can't believe people having a go at silvagni in his first game fmd. His kick for goal in the first should have been a goal but I can't think of a kid under more pressure than him.
I believe he was under instruction to not go up in two many contests and look for space, ala how he contributed to our first goal.
A glimpse of the future and he absolutely belongs out thrre
He played pretty much as I expected, given the reports from the NB's and given it was his first game . He only got out of nappies 5 minutes ago - I wasn't expecting 3 Brownlow votes, 4 goals and a BOG, especially given the rest of the team.
Re: Rd 15: Post Game ________: Carlton vs Collingwood - cookie2 - 07-02-2016
Yes, I thought Jack made a positive start for us and did not flinch when he went for the high balls. Pity his debut had to be against the backdrop of such a dismal team effort.
Casboult certainly was right up there with Everitt for crapness and surely will be lucky to survive unless he turns it around very soon?
Re: Rd 15: Post Game ________: Carlton vs Collingwood - Tragic - 07-02-2016
Jack looked a little uncertain at times which is understandable in your first game but he does seem to know what he's doing. 15 possies 6 marks and 4 tackles. Really should have had 2 goals as well. With him and Charlie and Harry our fwd line looks like it will get better. That lets us move out underperformers like Everitt and Walker and maybe Casboult, none of whom seem to be able to get enough of the ball on a regular basis. Lamb and Sumner can fight it out for the other small fwd spot. A bit of competition between them wont hurt. Also need a really lively goal sneak who can make a goal out of nothing. I'm not going to dwell on how we lost Eddie, we don't have a time machine, but he is the sort of player that would round that fwd line out.
The back 6 looks fairly settled although it is a real shame about Byrne.
We need more toigh and hard running quality on the ball.
A bit more time into the young talent, a couple of good mids, and a quality small fwd and i think we'll have the core of a competitive side. A little bit of skill and luck required at draft and trade time and we might become a finals side in the next couple of years. But for now we know where we are at. I can see some promising green shoots and that was always what this year was about.
Re: Rd 15: Post Game ________: Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 07-02-2016
We are 14 games into a 66 game rebuild, and last night, that's exactly how we looked - a side that's about 21 % complete.
Re: Rd 15: Post Game ________: Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 07-02-2016
When you look at some of the stats, there's no question that some things are working, but not nearly enough.
Re: Rd 15: Post Game ________: Carlton vs Collingwood - Mav - 07-02-2016
(07-02-2016, 02:33 PM)kruddler link Wrote:As a barely legal draftee to be taken in one of the last picks in the draft, he has so far exceeded most peoples expectations at this very early stage of his career.That would be true if you're talking about non-Carlton people.
IIRC, Scott Lucas opined that he relies on footy smarts to find free space. In other words, he's like Lance Whitnall without the weight rather than a Levi Casboult. His leading patterns will therefore be a bit more convoluted and it'll take his team mates a while to adjust. He's only 191 cm and AFAIK isn't a huge leaper, so we wouldn't want to see him attempting too many pack marks. With his genes and the coaching his old man has given him, he should be a brilliant one-on-one mark when he puts on weight.
Gutted for Ciaran Byrne. His impact as a rebounding defender has been immense. If he does have to have a traditional reco, I hope homesickness won't become irresistible.