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Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood - Pratty - 06-28-2016

Gowers and DVR need to play more than 4 or 5 good games to warrant a crack at the AFL IMHO. I am rapt they are showing something, really happy fro that, but they need to push hard to the selectors so that they simply cannot be ignored. They are making inroads!


Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood - Baggers - 06-29-2016

(06-28-2016, 11:24 PM)Pratty link Wrote:Gowers and DVR need to play more than 4 or 5 good games to warrant a crack at the AFL IMHO. I am rapt they are showing something, really happy fro that, but they need to push hard to the selectors so that they simply cannot be ignored. They are making inroads!

Couldn't agree more.

DVR has also got to show consistency of intensity and stop going missing for periods of the game. Billy boy has been consistent in that area for a good month now and only needs to focus on better disposal.


Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 06-29-2016

(06-29-2016, 01:34 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Couldn't agree more.

DVR has also got to show consistency of intensity and stop going missing for periods of the game. Billy boy has been consistent in that area for a good month now and only needs to focus on better disposal.

Agreed, but I worry that giving Tutt a game ahead of them sets a very bad example to the youth.


Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood - DJC - 06-29-2016

(06-29-2016, 01:47 AM)LP link Wrote:Agreed, but I worry that giving Tutt a game ahead of them sets a very bad example to the youth.

I have the opposite view.  Tutt has worked his butt and was rewarded for it.  That is a great example for the younger players to follow. 


Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood - Pratty - 06-29-2016

There's nothing wrong with making the young blokes:
a. earn it
b. show some desperation and hunger
c. show some fight and dirt

If they want it bad enough, they'll get there.

If they are up to it (not talent wise as they all have it), they'll get there.

Guys like:
- Graham
- Buckley
- Jaksch
- DVR
- Gowers

There's obviously something(s) missing with these blokes that BB and co don't see, or haven't seen enough of, for long enough.


Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood - cookie2 - 06-29-2016

(06-29-2016, 02:22 AM)Pratty link Wrote:There's nothing wrong with making the young blokes:
a. earn it
b. show some desperation and hunger
c. show some fight and crape

If they want it bad enough, they'll get there.

If they are up to it (not talent wise as they all have it), they'll get there.

Guys like:
- Graham
- Buckley
- Jaksch
- DVR
- Gowers

There's obviously something(s) missing with these blokes that BB and co don't see, or haven't seen enough of, for long enough.

I agree. Wallsy was on SEN earlier saying that anyone given a senior game should stay there for at least 4 weeks to prove themselves, even if they make a few mistakes, as long as their attitude and endeavour  are right. I guess if that's the case you have to make extra sure that the right people get selected in the first place.


Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood - Amers - 06-29-2016

(06-28-2016, 12:22 PM)cimm1979 link Wrote:Did we win last time you went ??

There is a good chance! I used to mostly go to Essendone v Carlton games and I have never seen Carlton lose to the Bombers at the 'G!

I have seen us lose to Richmond and the Demons of all teams there though. Sad


Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood - Amers - 06-29-2016

(06-28-2016, 01:28 PM)LoveNavy link Wrote:My next one is v Crows!
Hope you see the boys put on a show this weekend and you get to scream your lungs out with elation.
that is when we come away with our 7th for the season. Have a ball Amers. Give the boys a big cheer for me

Go Blues

Cheers LN, I'm sure I will be doing plenty of cheering!


Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 06-29-2016

(06-29-2016, 02:10 AM)DJC link Wrote:I have the opposite view.  Tutt has worked his butt and was rewarded for it.  That is a great example for the younger players to follow.

He takes short steps and sells team-mates into trouble, that is a very, very, very bad example.


Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood - DJC - 06-29-2016

(06-29-2016, 06:30 AM)LP link Wrote:He takes short steps and sells team-mates into trouble, that is a very, very, very bad example.

I don't think that Tutt has the ability to succeed at AFL level but he has been outstanding in the VFL.  He must appreciate the little bit of extra time because there are no short steps and his decision making and execution have been good.

As one of the most consistent and and better performing players in the NBs, Tutt deserved an opportunity in the seniors.  That he didn't make the most of it is another issue.  However, giving under-performing players a shot before him on the basis of their youth would be sending a very, very, very bad message.